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    #61
    Originally posted by John Yuknavich View Post
    This eras biggest drug cheats should all be banned from the hall of fame:

    Holyfield
    Roy Jones
    Shane Mosely
    Canelo Alvarez
    Andre Ward
    Floyd Mayweather
    Antonio Tarver
    James Toney

    Today’s cheats:

    Charlos
    Miller
    Ortiz
    Povetkin (Stiverne fight, not Wilder fight)
    Spence

    Low integrity, garbage culture of entitlement.
    Speculation aside, when have Ward, Mayweather, the Charlos and Spence been linked to PEDs?

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      #62
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
      I agree, I’m all for banning cheats forever!

      Let’s look at the tally shall we..

      Jarrell Miller
      Tyson Fury
      Canelo Alvarez
      Willie Monroe Jr
      Cesar Chavez Jr
      Hughie Fury
      Luis Ortiz
      Alexander Povetkin
      Dillian Whyte
      Luis Nery
      Mickey Bey
      Alexander Bes*****
      Alejandra Jimenez
      Heather Hardy


      All GUILTY for destroying the integrity of the sport further and degrading what it means to be a champion!

      Hopefully they stay clear since no permanent ban would be placed on any of them unless they killed an opponent while on PED!
      Originally posted by John Yuknavich View Post
      This eras biggest drug cheats should all be banned from the hall of fame:

      Holyfield
      Roy Jones
      Shane Mosely
      Canelo Alvarez
      Andre Ward
      Floyd Mayweather
      Antonio Tarver
      James Toney

      Today’s cheats:

      Charlos
      Miller
      Ortiz
      Povetkin (Stiverne fight, not Wilder fight)
      Spence

      Low integrity, garbage culture of entitlement.
      And not one of them ever inflicted the damage to their opponents that Resto did (that I'm aware of).

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        #63
        Originally posted by Buggy bear View Post
        The **** will hit the fan in one of two ways for boxing .

        1) when A heavyweight household name seemingly clean kills someone in the ring and found to be a drug cheat .

        2) when one of very few female fighters who can fight kills one of the many overmatched female fighters with a padded out record who are pushed forward desparetly due to media branding and desperate lack of quality for the few who can fight ..
        I've always said this, but I don't necessarily think it has to be a heavyweight as guys like Pacquiao, Mayweather, and Canelo are more famous than any heavyweights in the lower weight classes.

        I think especially if a guy kills a guy in one of the glamour weight classes (LW, WW, MW, LHW, HW), then I think it will be a big deal

        Originally posted by John Yuknavich View Post
        This eras biggest drug cheats should all be banned from the hall of fame:

        Holyfield
        Roy Jones
        Shane Mosely
        Canelo Alvarez
        Andre Ward
        Floyd Mayweather
        Antonio Tarver
        James Toney

        Today’s cheats:

        Charlos
        Miller
        Ortiz
        Povetkin (Stiverne fight, not Wilder fight)
        Spence

        Low integrity, garbage culture of entitlement.
        Half of those guys never tested positive for anything.

        I haven't even heard anybody (outside of bitter NSB Queens) accuse Spence, Ward, or Mayweather.

        You can't just accuse people of shxt and kick them out the hall of fame.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
          ——-
          How?
          Are you ok with fighters cheating?
          Are you ok with cheaters like Miller getting a 2nd chance from Top Rank?

          I don't like fighters who use Ped. I am only referring to the article, there are better approach about this topic, that is all.

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            #65
            Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
            And not one of them ever inflicted the damage to their opponents that Resto did (that I'm aware of).
            Your standards are pretty loose, this is the problem with boxing!

            Nothing will change until either a big name fighter is killed cuz his opponent was on PED or the big name fighter kills someone cuz they were on PED!

            It should never get to that point, it’s like with this crap going on in the world!

            It could’ve been prevented if people would stop watching TV 24/7 and believe everything the news tell them,
            Stop being lazy,actually pick up a book, do some research And eat healthy!

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              #66
              Originally posted by JLC View Post
              This is nonsense. There are rules in sport and only when the rules are broken dues cheating take place. Being poor is not in the rule book. Nor is having up to date equipment or a good trainer. Get real.
              I was taking it to an extreme for a reason. Society and individuals change and what is considered normal or the standard changes too (I don't know what the future society will believe so I took it to a rich Vs poor resolution as a hypothetical).

              What is considered cheating nowadays was fine 50 years ago so "Rules being broken" is always up for change and debate.

              If the rule is if you have "X" in your system you face an instant lifetime ban, what if somebody else puts "X" in your system to get you banned? What if "X" is present in a contaminated product?

              It has to be decided case by case, blanket rules are bs.

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                #67
                I don't remember the outrage over Chavez Jr. they just moved states and had the fight anyways. What about Dillian Whyte? I agree **** Miller, but lets **** all the cheats.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by John Yuknavich View Post
                  This eras biggest drug cheats should all be banned from the hall of fame:

                  Holyfield
                  Roy Jones
                  Shane Mosely
                  Canelo Alvarez
                  Andre Ward
                  Floyd Mayweather
                  Antonio Tarver
                  James Toney

                  Today’s cheats:

                  Charlos
                  Miller
                  Ortiz
                  Povetkin (Stiverne fight, not Wilder fight)
                  Spence

                  Low integrity, garbage culture of entitlement.
                  Toney is different. He was prescribed something for a torn bicep, and pissed hot because of it. He wasn't taking PED's. The medication actually ruined his thyroid gland.


                  Wait, Tarver, Mayweather and Ward are cheats too? Interesting.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by LDBC Slayer View Post
                    This sport ain't for the soft
                    lets abandon all rules then so, who cares if u remove padding from gloves, put plaster of paris on your knuckles or take peds, if u complain about it u are soft and this is a hard sport so suck it up and get on with it softie

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Angeljuice View Post
                      I was taking it to an extreme for a reason. Society and individuals change and what is considered normal or the standard changes too (I don't know what the future society will believe so I took it to a rich Vs poor resolution as a hypothetical).

                      What is considered cheating nowadays was fine 50 years ago so "Rules being broken" is always up for change and debate.

                      If the rule is if you have "X" in your system you face an instant lifetime ban, what if somebody else puts "X" in your system to get you banned? What if "X" is present in a contaminated product?

                      It has to be decided case by case, blanket rules are bs.
                      I think it is decided case by case, as is. And in this case this guy was found guilty and labeled as a cheater. In other cases they accept the tainted meat theory, or contaminated substance theory.

                      In 50 years of the rule does change, then all fighters will be able to do what they want, so it won’t be cheating anymore. It that isn’t the case right now so the playing field is not level when someone decides to do this.

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