Tim Bradley: Deontay Wilder is the Only REAL Man Over at PBC!

[1hourRun]

Thank you 'Desert-Storm'.

[GhostofDempsey]

PBC has been hyping in-house mismatches since their debut. Take one A-side fighter and hype his opponent to make it look like it will be competitive or even compelling. They mapped out that blueprint with Floyd when he came on board and have stuck to that script ever since.

[Curt Henning]

PBC has been hyping in-house mismatches since their debut. Take one A-side fighter and hype his opponent to make it look like it will be competitive or even compelling. They mapped out that blueprint with Floyd when he came on board and have stuck to that script ever since.

please stfu u ****ing fgt...jfc

[W1LL]

Dre's reaction throughout this was hilarious LOL.

Haha!

I also like the way Tim Bradley looks at Andre Ward for affirmation afterwards. Comedy that is.

[PAC-BOY]

Dre was a bit stunned and was like bro, you're on your own on this one LOL.

Even Joe looked off like wtf is going on here. lol He having all the the most experience in commentating of the two had to jump in and interrupt and shift gears

[PAC-BOY]

Haha!

I also like the way Tim Bradley looks at Andre Ward for affirmation afterwards. Comedy that is.

hahahaha like Daddy did i do good?

or "What you talkin bout Willis" look! lol

[Slicc]

Meanwhile in Reality all the top PBC WW have mixed it up the last couple years and Crawford sits alone on the TR island mostly fighting competition no one gives a f.uck about.

Well, maybe if these PBC fighters wanted the smoke, he wouldn't be stuck facing sub par opposition.

If Crawford wants to fight the PBC WW like you stated he has to force Arum to send him over to the PBc side to get the fight, The PBC Guys have lots of options and have a bigger platform they unfortunately don’t need Crawford, It’s Crawford who needs them

My points are that Crawford shouldn't have to, and even if he did, he'd just be left on the shelf like Spence was. Promoters don't matter in this case, because neither Spence nor Thurman used that as an excuse not to fight him, last time I checked.

Stop the ducking talk you come across as a f. Aggot believing these guys are scared of other fighters ,I can just as easily say Crawford ducked when he resigned with TR knowing he wouldn’t get any of the PBC top guys but it’s not true because none of the elites Duck if the $ Right , All the PBC guy are mixing it up , Buds proven he’d fight anyone , this is Business these fights aren’t happening because one of them is scared.

All the PBC guys are mixing it up? Nearly all the PBC guys were ducking Spence before Crawford moved up. That's what you call mixing it up? Spence literally told Crawford to his face that he saw Porter as an easier opponent, therefore would rather fight him. Thurman said he has no interest in Crawford during an interview. Stop blaming Crawford, when these guys clearly have no desire to face him.

I’m not even a PAC fan but I think through his career he’s proven he doesn’t give a f.uck who he fights. It’s Roach who said he didn’t want Manny to fight Bud because he realizes Bud would most likely beat the living sh.it out of Manny the same way Spence probably will

At the end of the day, Pac's the fighter. He should have the final say in who he fights, unless sanctioning bodies get involved.

Keep dreaming if you think Haymon will send Porter or any other Valuable PBC WW over to ESPN help them succeed and let his competitions fighter build his rep off one of his guys. It’s not happening similar to why Arum isn’t going to send Bud over to the PBC.

See, that's where you messed up. If they really wanted Crawford, they'd make Haymon put the fight together. They don't want it with Bud.

[R_Walken]

Well, maybe if these PBC fighters wanted the smoke, he wouldn't be stuck facing sub par opposition.



My points are that Crawford shouldn't have to, and even if he did, he'd just be left on the shelf like Spence was. Promoters don't matter in this case, because neither Spence nor Thurman used that as an excuse not to fight him, last time I checked.


All the PBC guys are mixing it up? Nearly all the PBC guys were ducking Spence before Crawford moved up. That's what you call mixing it up? Spence literally told Crawford to his face that he saw Porter as an easier opponent, therefore would rather fight him. Thurman said he has no interest in Crawford during an interview. Stop blaming Crawford, when these guys clearly have no desire to face him.


At the end of the day, Pac's the fighter. He should have the final say in who he fights, unless sanctioning bodies get involved.


See, that's where you messed up. If they really wanted Crawford, they'd make Haymon put the fight together. They don't want it with Bud.

This whole post is Timmy Logic

PBC WWs Have 3 of the 4 Straps , 5/6 of the best WWs basically almost all of the 2nd tier or past prime Notable names and fight on a larger platform. Haymon has all the leverage especially when you consider Bud Can’t sell PPVs to save his life so a joint PPV is probably out of the question . What motivation is there to send one of his guys to a smaller Rival Network so their Fighter can build his name off one of your fighters? Arum and Bud have no leverage. Arum would have to send Bud over to PBC while he’s shown he’ll send a 2nd tier to a rival of there’s potentially a benefit if he wins he won’t do that for any of his Thoroughbreds he has. He only has a few guys that can draw a eyeballs and he’s proven for yesrs when he had Manny he has no interest in letting his guys fight top guys if he doesn’t have skin in the game on their career as well

You must be dense if you can’t comprehend that Spence was viewed as a Threat just like Thurman was and until he had a sTrap and had his name built up , the established names weren’t going to fight them until he built his Name and made it worthwhile . You remember when Thurman was the Flavour of the month and he crashed Pauline’s post fight when he had a sTrap, Did Paulie give him a fight , Was Mayweather offering him a fight , Was Arum offering Thurman to PAC / Bradley to Thurman , Was Cotto / Marquez wanting to Potentially be the first Notable names to have their scalp taken by Thurman. No Keith had to grind it out and get exposure slowly beating more Notable names . Just like Spence who had to grind his way to become the Mando for Kell , he broke Kells face on the road got a sTrap then it became worth it for Porter once he got the W and Garcia’s sTrap to risk it in a unification with Spence. As soon as Errol had 2 straps Danny was the first one in the ring wanting next. ******s like you think these guys are ducking and scared when literally every time you f.aggots say that , the ducker takes the fight when it becomes worth it to them and more often then not the Ducker is the one who actually wins.

Canelo was Ducking GGg
Garcia was ducking Lucas then Thurman
Mayweather was ducking PAC
Ward was ducking Kovalev
Wilder was ducking Ortiz

See a pattern here, Dumb sh.it said inbred fans These Guys arent scared but Boxing is a Business first and a sport second so the new guy has to establish himself first and it becomes worth it to the already established names
To risk Their Position to take the fight. It sucks but that’s the way it is Unfortunately

This whole sh.it makes it seem like I’m not a Bud fan and don’t want him to get the big fights , The truth is I’m a fan and want him to fight the top guys but he put himself in a position where he isn’t ina. Position to get the fights he or fans want and you must be new to the sport or blind to how it operates if you think a rival promoter or a Established fighter is going give a olive branch and fight a dangerous Threat on a smaller network for avg $ just to make the fans happy

Did Arum Offer Valdez To any of the top 126ers , No he just let Valdez fight no hopers for 3 years instead of trying make a fight with any of the top PBC guys , Was Arum willing to let Nonito fight Mares on a GB Card.
When Pac was with TR when was the last time he fought a guy who was was Dangerous and who Arum didnt Have Under his stabke or didn’t have Options on.

For some reason you think everyone should bend over backwards to get a Crawford fight because you view him as the best WW


Open your eyes realize how the sport operates and stop crying making up fairy tales in your mind that the other WWs are deathly scared of a guy that started at 135 and has the worst resume among the Top Crop Of WWs that’s not why he isn’t getting the fights you want to see him in .

[Slicc]

This whole post is Timmy Logic

PBC WWs Have 3 of the 4 Straps , 5/6 of the best WWs basically almost all of the 2nd tier or past prime Notable names and fight on a larger platform. Haymon has all the leverage especially when you consider Bud Can’t sell PPVs to save his life so a joint PPV is probably out of the question . What motivation is there to send one of his guys to a smaller Rival Network so their Fighter can build his name off one of your fighters?

Why are we talking about Al Haymon, when it's the fighters who should push for fights? Do these guys have a say in anything, or do they just let Haymon run their careers? What motivation is there? To hand the p4p #1 boxer his first loss? To get his belt? To unify? To become undisputed?

Arum and Bud have no leverage. Arum would have to send Bud over to PBC while he’s shown he’ll send a 2nd tier to a rival of there’s potentially a benefit if he wins he won’t do that for any of his Thoroughbreds he has.

And I'm saying that even if Arum sent Bud over to PBC, he'd just continue being saved for last. Has Haymon even shown any interest in taking Bud? It's not like he's offering Crawford retarded money, like Hearn did Wilder. Crawford would leave Top Rank and fight nobody, because they'd rather fight each other than lose to him.

You must be dense if you can’t comprehend that Spence was viewed as a Threat just like Thurman was and until he had a sTrap and had his name built up , the established names weren’t going to fight them until he built his Name and made it worthwhile .

So, you agree with me? Spence being frozen out by his own stablemates is an example of it being beyond promoters. This is the generation of the fighter, who doesn't wanna fight. Motherfuckers come up with a million and one excuses not to step in the ring with certain guys.

******s like you think these guys are ducking and scared when literally every time you f.aggots say that , the ducker takes the fight when it becomes worth it to them and more often then not the Ducker is the one who actually wins.

I never said they were scared. You don't have to be scared to duck. Them avoiding him for financial reasons doesn't change the fact that they're still avoiding him.

See a pattern here, Dumb sh.it said inbred fans These Guys arent scared but Boxing is a Business first and a sport second so the new guy has to establish himself first and it becomes worth it to the already established names
To risk Their Position to take the fight. It sucks but that’s the way it is Unfortunately

Assuming my race, when you've never even seen me before. Classy. Crawford is the most established champion at 147 besides Pacquiao. The man won straps in 3 divisions, and became undisputed in one. Spence, Thurman and Porter likely won't achieve even half of what Bud already has.

This whole sh.it makes it seem like I’m not a Bud fan and don’t want him to get the big fights , The truth is I’m a fan and want him to fight the top guys but he put himself in a position where he isn’t ina.

Spence told Bud to get a belt. Bud did, but Spence fought Porter instead. How is that not ducking?

Did Arum Offer Valdez To any of the top 126ers , No he just let Valdez fight no hopers for 3 years instead of trying make a fight with any of the top PBC guys , Was Arum willing to let Nonito fight Mares on a GB Card.

The top PBC guys at 126 can't even fight each other. They got Gary Russell going out all kinds of fucked up, because Santa Cruz would rather move up than face him. Mans pulled up on Santa Cruz's terminally ill father talking crazy, and still couldn't get a match.

For some reason you think everyone should bend over backwards to get a Crawford fight because you view him as the best WW

I'm saying a world champion shouldn't have to go through all these hoops to unify. At the end of the day, there won't be an undisputed welterweight champion, unless the guy with the 3 other belts goes through Crawford. That alone should be enough motivation to make the fight.

Open your eyes realize how the sport operates and stop crying making up fairy tales in your mind that the other WWs are deathly scared of a guy that started at 135 and has the worst resume among the Top Crop Of WWs that’s not why he isn’t getting the fights you want to see him in .

I know how the sport operates; it doesn't mean I can't talk **** at the fuckery these fighters pull. If he's a small welterweight and has the worst resume, then beating him shouldn't be a problem, right?

[R_Walken]

Why are we talking about Al Haymon, when it's the fighters who should push for fights? Do these guys have a say in anything, or do they just let Haymon run their careers? What motivation is there? To hand the p4p #1 boxer his first loss? To get his belt? To unify? To become undisputed?


And I'm saying that even if Arum sent Bud over to PBC, he'd just continue being saved for last. Has Haymon even shown any interest in taking Bud? It's not like he's offering Crawford retarded money, like Hearn did Wilder. Crawford would leave Top Rank and fight nobody, because they'd rather fight each other than lose to him.


So, you agree with me? Spence being frozen out by his own stablemates is an example of it being beyond promoters. This is the generation of the fighter, who doesn't wanna fight. Motherfuckers come up with a million and one excuses not to step in the ring with certain guys.


I never said they were scared. You don't have to be scared to duck. Them avoiding him for financial reasons doesn't change the fact that they're still avoiding him.


Assuming my race, when you've never even seen me before. Classy. Crawford is the most established champion at 147 besides Pacquiao. The man won straps in 3 divisions, and became undisputed in one. Spence, Thurman and Porter likely won't achieve even half of what Bud already has.


Spence told Bud to get a belt. Bud did, but Spence fought Porter instead. How is that not ducking?


The top PBC guys at 126 can't even fight each other. They got Gary Russell going out all kinds of fucked up, because Santa Cruz would rather move up than face him. Mans pulled up on Santa Cruz's terminally ill father talking crazy, and still couldn't get a match.


I'm saying a world champion shouldn't have to go through all these hoops to unify. At the end of the day, there won't be an undisputed welterweight champion, unless the guy with the 3 other belts goes through Crawford. That alone should be enough motivation to make the fight.


I know how the sport operates; it doesn't mean I can't talk **** at the fuckery these fighters pull. If he's a small welterweight and has the worst resume, then beating him shouldn't be a problem, right?

First off great Rebuttal on most points , I think we probably agree on most of this f.uckery It’s just we’re going about from 2 different angles and I wasn’t at all trying to get racial with you in my post , if that’s how it came across my bad I never even considered what race you were when I responded even though in some cases dudes make it obvious that they’re a fan of ( fill in the blank ) becuse they are also ( fill in the blank ) and think that when that fighter has success that translates into themselves being successful , I was throwing some insults your way more so some regular sh.it talking and just want to hammer in my point that I assume is right and your opinion isnt just wrong but so far from reality you should Question yourself why you’d even have that opinion , it’s the internet so it’s Not to be taken seriously just a bit of sh.it talking , I assumed ( and I was wrong ) that you didn’t factor in Bud is t getting the fights because this Carnival pretends to be a sport but it actually isn’t at all and the farthest thing from it

Boxing is a Business trying to masquerade that it’s a actual sport where Talent is what matters for fighters getting to the top and getting accolades, but the truth is this Carnival is about Popularity and having a team with maximum Power / Leverage that these fighters are competing in

Crawford’s the Man and one of the best there is but Even being a P4P talent and having Arum as his his Promoter , Bud and TR have no leverage at WW and he isn’t popular enough to get the fights he wants and the fans want to see him in. But he’s popular enough and they have enough invested in him that TR won’t
Send him to another platform to be involved in Big fight or risk him taking a L against a guy where they aren’t the lead promoter and they don’t have some skin in the other fighter

Today very few fighters or their team actually care about being the best (I believe Buds a exception) it’s aboht Making as much for as long as possible and the Suits only care about holding onto as much power for as long as they can and using it that leverage to get their guys to stranglehokd a Division , they aren’t going to Have their fighter have a fight that has a decent potential for them to lose power in the sport while also giving more to the competition if their guy takes a L

Bud is in the same boat as Charlo / Andrade / Rigo / GGg / are or have been in but almost all for different reasons in which they probably aren’t going to get to face the fighters fans want to see them fight and if/when they do they’ll probably be old past prime or jump through another f.uckkng hoop or two to get the fight made where they’ll be a a severe disadvantage going in .

I’m probably just the bitter fan that almost expects this type of sh.it it at this point so when guys can’t get the fights the fighter or fans want to see , I just chalk it up Accept it as that’s just boxing. A absolute crooked sh.it show where talent means very little overall and in some cases it’s rhe only sport where being too talented actually will hurt your career if they don’t have the right team supporting them