Joshua vs Ruiz 2 Isn't even a tough fight to call

[Caught Square]

You should watch the fight again, the first round was competitive but Joshua CLEARLY won the 2nd round... not that it really mattered in the end but still.

Joshua had some good success with his lead hook off the jab and got caught because he planted his feet throwing combinations with no regard for anything coming back.

Ruiz is really good at punching 'with' his opponents in exchanges, similar to Danny Garcia but with really fast hands.

I think Joshua does him in the rematch as he won't be reckless if he hurts him early and will be able to discourage him the longer the fight goes without Ruiz hurting him. KO in 8 or 9 rounds.

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One day we'll have to have a talk about how Hearn ruined AJ's career and moved him way to fast because he saw dollar signs.

AJ himself said he's been complaining because he wasn't getting fights that would improve his skillset. He knew this day was coming. Takam & Parker were warning signs everybody ignored.

joshua was largely seen as a joke when he turned pro. he was absolutely gifted a gold medal in the olympics because they knew that would kick start his pro career and have him earning big money right off the bat. he actually developed into a pretty good fighter. did he go too fast? maybe, but from a fans perspective its better to be a joshua than a tank davis who need 5 years of joke fights.

[NoConcoms]

what is ring generalship though?

In this circumstance it's very simple; Ruiz was getting off first, and backing up the bigger man. He was dictating the pace of the fight. Not Joshua.

Therefore, he was the general in the ring. (Unless of course you're going to try and tell me AJ's game plan was to suddenly start fighting like Pernell Whitaker. LOL.)

[D4thincarnation]

Betting on boxing is risky regardless of one's confidence. Last night's fight between Valdez and Lopez is a prime example. One judge had Valdez clearly winning when if fact he was obviously losing by most accounts.

Point being it isn't as easy as he makes out.


And if you don't think Joshua will knock Ruiz out, you can even lay that bet.


People can talk big and say they know what is going to happen but when it comes to backing it up, they run scared like the OP.

[NoConcoms]

Simple. He landed more punches than Ruiz. You know, the usual way that you win a round.

I'll just drop this here;

Effective Aggression ?Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it�s not exactly �effective.?Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring Generalship ?The fighter who controls the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense ?How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches? Good defense is important.
Hard and Clean Punches ?To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren�t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.


Good day mate! 😂😂😂😂😂

[Toffee]

I'll just drop this here;

Effective Aggression ?Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it�s not exactly �effective.?Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring Generalship ?The fighter who controls the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense ?How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches? Good defense is important.
Hard and Clean Punches ?To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren�t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.


Good day mate! 😂😂😂😂😂

If you get outlanded, then "effective aggression" and "ring generalship" aren't worth a carrot. Neither of them are effective if you're getting punched in the face.

You're scoring things that aren't there. And using them to give that round to Andy "by a mile".

You need more boxing understanding.

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In this circumstance it's very simple; Ruiz was getting off first, and backing up the bigger man. He was dictating the pace of the fight. Not Joshua.

Therefore, he was the general in the ring. (Unless of course you're going to try and tell me AJ's game plan was to suddenly start fighting like Pernell Whitaker. LOL.)

we don't know what joshua's game plan was. this is the problem with having preconceived notions on how fighters fight and should fight. floyds usually a back foot counter puncher yet against zab, zab was getting off first so floyd started walking him down behind a high guard. was zab still the ring general because he forced floyd to do something he usually doesnt do? floyd was beating him up.

[daggum]

I'll just drop this here;

Effective Aggression ?Being aggressive gives the impression of dominance, but unless the boxer is landing shots and not constantly getting countered, it�s not exactly �effective.?Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently lands his punches and avoids those from his opponent.
Ring Generalship ?The fighter who controls the action and enforces his will and style.
Defense ?How well is a boxer slipping, parrying, and blocking punches? Good defense is important.
Hard and Clean Punches ?To the untrained eye, it can appear as if a boxer is landing a lot of shots, when, in fact, most are being blocked or aren�t landing flush. A judge needs to look for hard shots that land clean.


Good day mate! ����������

all these things mean the same thing. who is landing better punches. can you really win defense if you slip 20 punches while getting hit with 10 clean ones while your opponent only slips 5 while getting hit clean with 5? hey you have better defense pro rated! in reality you got hit more but meh reality doesnt matter.

[NoConcoms]

You should watch the fight again, the first round was competitive but Joshua CLEARLY won the 2nd round... not that it really mattered in the end but still.

Just re-watched it. And yes; Joshua did win the 2nd. He won based on landing the cleaner more effective punches. He also did not get backed up nearly as much, and implemented his game plan much better in that round.

If he can fight like that for 12 rounds, he'll win the rematch. He needs to stand his ground more, and get off first! He's the bigger man. He has a longer reach, and a height advantage. He NEEDS to back Andy up. Like I said though; He is hesitant to do so, out of fear of getting countered.

The head movement, footwork, and handspeed of Ruiz are just too much for him to deal with.

[NoConcoms]

If you get outlanded, then "effective aggression" and "ring generalship" aren't worth a carrot. Neither of them are effective if you're getting punched in the face.

LOL. You're really reaching here, aren't you? Just remember; This criteria is not MINE. I did not create it.

Also; If a fighter lands 15 jabs, but gets blasted by 10 powershots, and is punch-drunk staggering all over the ring, the fighter who landed more wins that round? Despite most likely having a concussion? (Like someone I know. LOL.)