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    #51
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    that is why everyone started calling pac the catchweight-king

    that, and all of those mid-level Top Rank junior-welters who got dragged up to 144

    Cotto wasn't going to fall for that trick again

    Pacquiao was a former flyweight champ, who 18 months earlier was fighting at 130lbs, then had one fight at 135lbs.

    For Hatton and Oscar he barely got over 140lbs

    Then he went to 147lbs and targeted Mayweather, Cotto and Mosely.

    Mayweather expertly took himself out of the equation by fighting Marquez and announcing it on the eve of the Hatton bout.


    Yes he did offer catchweight fights to Mosley and Cotto, But Pacquiao was going up far more than Cotto came down.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
      No he was not. Mosley even offered to fight at 140 and they turned it down.



      ring tv

      "Manny Pacquiao and Miguel Cotto seem to have arrived at a sticking point in their negotiations to meet on Nov. 14: Pacquiao reportedly wants a catch weight of 143 pounds, Cotto wants it to be 145.

      And one swirling rumor has it that Pacquiao is getting fed up and might look elsewhere for an opponent.

      That might open the door for Shane Mosley, who has been pushing hard to fight the No. 1 attraction in boxing and announced Friday that he’d go down to 140 pounds if that’s what it takes to get a crack at Pacquiao’s RING junior welterweight title."

      Stop lying.


      Mosley was the #1 WW and lineal at the time. Pacquiao wanted none of it after seeing him destroy Margarito.

      Mosley is all talk.
      He was making those statements because Cotto was in negotiation and he wasn't

      Thanks for proving that Cotto said he wanted the fight at 145lbs.

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        #53
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
        Mosley is all talk.
        He was making those statements because Cotto was in negotiation and he wasn't

        Thanks for proving that Cotto said he wanted the fight at 145lbs.
        I proved you a liar, that's what i did. Just going around making **** up is BS man.

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          #54
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          "Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny," Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter." - Freddie Roach

          Roach blowing smoke up his ass.

          They did see Mosley and Cotto as a threat at 147lbs as Pacquiao was untested there and unsure how he could deal with these champions.

          Hatton was a 140lbs guy and Oscar was past his best.

          Cotto and Mosley would also have a stone advantage on him in the ring.

          They along with Mayweather were the money fights.

          To ask for a catchweight against champions for a fighter that has stepped up so much just recently is not unreasonable.

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            #55
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            Roach blowing smoke up his ass.

            They did see Mosley and Cotto as a threat at 147lbs as Pacquiao was untested there and unsure how he could deal with these champions.

            Hatton was a 140lbs guy and Oscar was past his best.

            Cotto and Mosley would also have a stone advantage on him in the ring.

            They along with Mayweather were the money fights.

            To ask for a catchweight against champions for a fighter that has stepped up so much just recently is not unreasonable.



            then you have NOOOOOO problem whatsoever with the supposed rehydration clause in the Canelo/Kovalev fight... right?

            especially considering the fact that Canelo is jumping TWO divisions

            and especially considering the fact that a rehydration clause is nowhere near as bad as a catchweight... right?

            careful... I can easily do a post-history search

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              #56
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              then you have NOOOOOO problem whatsoever with the supposed rehydration clause in the Canelo/Kovalev fight... right?

              especially considering the fact that Canelo is jumping TWO divisions

              and especially considering the fact that a rehydration clause is nowhere near as bad as a catchweight... right?

              careful... I can easily do a post-history search

              I don't have an issue with it

              Never claimed I did.

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                #57
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                then you have NOOOOOO problem whatsoever with the supposed rehydration clause in the Canelo/Kovalev fight... right?

                especially considering the fact that Canelo is jumping TWO divisions

                and especially considering the fact that a rehydration clause is nowhere near as bad as a catchweight... right?

                careful... I can easily do a post-history search
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                Seems fair.

                That should not hinder his performance at all.


                All fights should have at least a 10% re-hydration clause ring weight and 5% on the morning.

                Save you looking

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  Save you looking



                  the reason why MANY fans started calling Pacquiao the catchweight king... is because they noticed that he had about 8/9 CONSECUTIVE weight-affected fights...

                  everyone knew they had to fight at manny-weight

                  manny-weight = 144

                  they pulled the big guys down... and they dragged the little guys up

                  nobody imagined all that lol

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