Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Arrives at Heavyweight, Stops Witherspoon in Seven

[QueensburyRules]

i love how people say usyk won't take the power from the "real HWs". but can the real HWs take a punch from the other real HWs? joshua quit vs fat and short ruiz.

- -Dead wrong on both accounts.

Limiting Andy to short and fat highlights your own limitations.

AJ knocked down multiple x clearly in the ozone in a fight he was winning in the beginning.

Upsets happen, esp when a fighter strides forth as a Colossus knocking out all the pretenders to unify the division while reaping unfathomable wealth and accolades.

Fat Andy stepped in to save AJ American debut near cancelled by an American drug cheat and faintability of American heavies willing to fight for a title on short notice.

[P to the J]

Based on what exactly??? Nothing was proven with this fight.

He doesn't need the power to stop other HWs to win all his other fights but HE MUST HAVE enough power to make them respect him and stop marching him down. You can't win all your fights walking backwards and countering, some judges will look at that positively but many won't.

If he can stop a fighter like Takam or Chisora then your statement MAY carry more weight.

Well I won’t know for sure until he fights them all, obviously. But it’s all very well saying that he’s gotta to deal with their power... they need to deal with his gas tank and elusive footwork. Usyk puts you on a carousel and my current gut feeling is that he’ll make his opponents too dizzy to finish him.

How are these guys supposed to march him down if they can’t catch him? Ortiz can’t cut a ring off too well, Joshua lacks stamina, Wilder’s.... well, Wilder (of course, if he lands it’s over).

Usyk’s right about one thing; Fury’s the real concern.

[P to the J]

You root for people like you sometimes. Other times you root for people whose personalities you like. That's why my favorite fighter of all time is Roy Jones.

But obviously the amount of success had a lot to do with it. The Loma hate ramped up when it wad obvious that he was the best fighter in the world and now the Usyk hate is in full force since its obvious that he's not only followed in Holyfield's steps but he has one upped him in more ways than one and is a real threat to the ethnic heavies. It's not rocket science sonny boy.

And for the record, black folks are more racist than white's regardless of what you have been fooled into believing.

For the record, sonny boy, it is impossible for “black folk” to be racist towards Caucasian people because racism is a construct designed to discredit blacks as an intellectually inferior species in a pseudo-scientific effort to legitimise slavery in the 18th century. It is impossible as per the English dictionary and as per the sociological definitions of racism.

You can read all about it. Like I have

It is absolutely possible for a black person to be a bigot on the other hand (towards Caucasians) but racism is a very specific form that cannot apply in this instance; hence why i’m careful to use terms like ‘bigotry’ and ‘prejudice’ which I agree is part of the problem with the anti-Loma/ Usyk nonsense (50% black incase you were wondering).

[P to the J]

No, I stand by my statement and I'm just calling out the obvious. I can tell that people take offense when folks with pale skin such as Loma, GGG and Usyk do well in boxing. Same as Klitschko. Your response proves my point exactly. I get it though, that you're not even smart enough to see that you even reinforced my point. Tell everyone what race you are too when you respond to this with some disrespectful bullsh@t.

Usyk dominated badly and was never in any kind of trouble whatsoever. He did exactly what he was expected to do so there's not much to b@tch about, yet 'ethnic' folk do on here. I wonder why?

We both know why, don't we?

“Ethnic folk.”

Whom exactly do you mean? You’re ethnic too. Or do you not have an ethnicity? The rest of the human race seems to.

[Boxing Goat]

AJ or Ruiz will dump the title rather than face Usyk who will be their mandatory. That means Usyk will fight another bum for the vacant title, probably the very average Adam Kownacki.

Why do you suppose they would duck a natural CW?

[Boxing Goat]

I've seen a lot of poor HWs in my 45 odd years following this sport but of ALL the poor and HYPED HWs then Joe Joyce is amongst the worst I've seen.

Joe Joyce has just 2 things going for him - he has a motor and he has a chin. He is a boxer just waiting to be exposed and he is seemingly running scared of Dubois. Sooner rather than later he''ll lose when he steps up. After that he'll have a quick patsie fight to get the winning feeling again and then because he is a name and because time isn't on his side expect him to be in a crossroads fight with Gorman and I'd expect him to lose that as well.

Joyce has more than that going and may I add that he already has a few decent wins on his ledger.

[Boxing Goat]

apples and oranges - the Stiverne that fought Wilder 1st time round was still competitive but that fight ****** the fight out of Stiverne and aged him overnight. You conveniently forgetting their 2nd fight. Stiverne that fought Joyce was a different fighter and just turning up for payday and to pad Joyce's resume.

Maybe but maybe not. It's not like Stiverne is old

[Boxing Goat]

Takam changed manager promoter

So? And? If he really wanted the fight, he would have went though with it regardless. Don't try and use the promoter excuse.

[Boxing Goat]

You don't have a point,you have a cowards agenda. There is a difference...

You talk about not being smart and you didn't even realize that I wasn't even criticizing his performance last night I just said I don't see him being able to beat the better heavyweights. Stop being so emotional so you can understand what Im saying smh.

You are 100% wrong. My favorite fighter right now is Canelo. I loved the Klitschko's. Wanted Vitali to decapitate Lennox Lewis. Wanted Delahoya to beat Mayweather. Was voting for Chavez against Whitaker lol. And IM BLACK. I'm not like you cowards who would root for a fighter JUST BECAUSE he shares the same pale complexion as you. If people do hate on the white fighters it's because of their FANS. It's the fans that make us hate on the few good white fighters that exists. We've been dominating the sport of boxing for so long I welcome change with open arms. It's dudes like you that make people hate them.

Shocker lol

So we can invalidate your response for obvious reasons. There's nothing not to like about Usyk except his race or his nationality teamed with his success in a black and Hispanic based sport and that is what gave you away. I'm not racist but I do call it out if I recognize it.

[Boxing Goat]

I love Loma. The best technical fighter alive right now. I have no problem saying that...

You clearly have issues with Blacks. Just look at your posts. You are projecting your insecurities about blacks on this website. You don't know who blacks like. When you say ****** things like "he's not only followed in Holyfield's steps but he has one upped him in more ways than one" this is what makes us think you are going off of emotion and complexion than common sense. How can you even think of posting a idiotic statement like that? Usyk is not even worthy to be mentioned in the same breath a friggin Evander Holyfield. Usyk didn't even fight far less beat a half way decent heavyweight with a full camp. What the hell is wrong with you???

If we are racists it's because society and slavery made us that way. Were your people enslaved for over 400 years? are your people receiving heavier jail time for lesser crimes while whites get slaps on their wrists for worse crimes? Are your people being killed by cops while unarmed and receiving no Justice? Do your people have to deal with idiots like you who STILL can't understand why some blacks may be racist? Do you even know the real definition of racism? You really are an idiot smh

Cool story except it's badly flawed for many, many uneducated reasons. And I didn't say I'm some genius but yeah, I'm kind of a smart. (and a smart @ss)

First off, I'm not racist, I'm just a realist. I do have problems with the majority of blacks because most blacks are racist. I know this first hand, I'm not just speculating. You can sit there and lie to yourself if you want. And the reason for racism is no different or any more excusable than the other. Racist whites that still exist now are in retaliation for how the black folks have treated this generation when they had nothing to do with slavery or inequality. The old racists were taught by their previous generations. Being passed along racism from your ancestors who were enslaved by many people around the world is not right. And for the record, your ancestors were sold for metal goods as a commodity and while that was wrong to buy a person, It was a FAR different world at the time. It has nothing to do with people 150 plus years later. Hell, if you look it up, other countries exploited the slave trade more than the US did and moral white people are the reason why you aren't still ****** today.

Next, you do realize that repeat offenders get more time in the legal system, right? And while you understand that blacks only make up about 13% of the US population, they still commit over half of the total violent crimes? That is staggering. Almost unbelievable and totally inexcusable. Blacks also kill whites 2 to 1! How can that be? And it's popular not to say that the white police kill black people when they kill more white people on average than blacks when blacks commit more felonies! Tell me you can understand basic statistics.

So, in closing, I don't wish any ill will on anyone that doesn't wish any on me but we both know that's just not how it works. That includes you.

On topic, I really don't care if you like Usyk.
I barely like him. I was just pointing out why you don't like him. (racially motivated)