Max Kellerman is bad for boxing in my opinion

[BoxingIsGreat]

I like Max and I think he does a good job. I don’t always agree with him but I don’t need to

I agree.

I wish he was commentating on all PBC boxing events. Al Haymon should invest in him. Showtime and Fox, too.

Commentate on Davis-Lomachenko next year. Max is dramatic and knowledgeable. I like him. However, he can also be a hard shill at times.

[Lance98]

Max has turned into a corporate suck up the same way tim bradley has. He says whatever espn wants him to say. He is no longer an unbiased commentator. This is something i hope andre ward doesn't turn into.

[L. Cipher]

Max is kind of annoying but I don't mind him too much. Paulie Malignaggi is by far the best doing it, with Showtime doing seemingly less shows PBC needs to bring Paulie over to Fox too, Joe Goosen is the worst.

[johnbook]

Kellerman is a CIA asset. He is part of Operation Mockingbird, a contractor paid to spread propaganda.




Operation Mockingbird

"About a third of the whole CIA budget went to media propaganda operations... We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars a year just for that... close to a billion dollars are being spent every year by the United States on secret propaganda." – Testimony of William Schaap to Congress252

In 1948, the United States began the Marshall Plan, an initiative to help the devastated Europe recover from the War. The CIA decided to siphon funds to create the Office of Policy Coordination, which would become the covert action branch of the Agency.253 It was under this program that Operation Mockingbird, a domestic propaganda campaign aimed at promoting the views of the CIA within the media, began. From the onset, Operation Mockingbird was one of the most sensitive of the CIA's operations, with recruitment of journalists and training of intelligence officers for propaganda purposes usually undertaken by Director Allen Dulles himself or his direct peers.254

It is a false belief that the CIA 'infiltrated' unwitting media institutions. The recruitment of journalists was frequently done with complicity from top management and ownership. Former CIA Director William Colby claimed during the Church Committee investigative hearings, "Lets go to the managements. They were witting." Among the organizations that would lend their help to the propaganda efforts was the New York Times, Newsweek, Associated Press, and the Miami Herald. Providing cover to CIA agents was a part of the New York Times policy, set by their late publisher, Arthur Hays Salzberger.255

The investigative committee of Frank Church, officially titled “Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities”, uncovered a lot of evidence concerning Operation Mockingbird and came to the conclusion that:

"The CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers and periodicals, scores of press services and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and other foreign media outlets."256

Carl Bernstein, the reporter famous for his excellent investigation into the Watergate scandal, wrote that:

“(Joseph) Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty-five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services—from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go betweens with spies in Communist countries.

Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring-do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full-time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements of America’s leading news organizations.”257

While a majority of Mockingbird operations were overseas, the goal was to have important, hard-hitting stories to be circulated in the American press. Relationships with major United States media institutions certainly helped with this goal. Bernstein lists The New York Times, CBS and Time inc. as the most productive relationships the agency cultivated. They also created front organizations overseas who publicly maintained an appearance of free press but privately were operated by the agency. An example of this is the Rome Daily American, which was 40% owned by the CIA for three decades.258

Another strategy was developing relationships with major media owners who were known to harbor right-wing views, such as William Paley of CBS, and then passing on information of journalists, actors and screenwriters who harbored left-wing views. Information was also passed on to friendly congressmen such as Joseph McCarthy. These men and women would then be blacklisted from the industry. Lee J. Cobb was one such actor who was blacklisted, and recalled his experience:

“When the facilities of the government of the United States are drawn on an individual it can be terrifying. The blacklist is just the opening gambit – being deprived of work. Your passport is confiscated. That's minor. But not being able to move without being tailed is something else. After a certain point it grows to implied as well as articulated threats, and people succumb. My wife did, and she was institutionalized. In 1953 the HCUA (House UnAmerican Activities Committee) did a deal with me. I was pretty much worn down. I had no money. I couldn't borrow. I had the expenses of taking care of the children. Why am I subjecting my loved ones to this? If it's worth dying for, and I am just as idealistic as the next fellow. But I decided it wasn't worth dying for, and if this gesture was the way of getting out of the penitentiary I'd do it. I had to be employable again.”259

The CIA went as far as to write scripts for Hollywood. One interesting example is the funding of the movie version of Animal Farm in 1954, a book written just less than a decade earlier by George Orwell which enjoyed large commercial success. The problem for the CIA was that Orwell was a socialist, and his book attacked both capitalism and communism. To avoid this conflict, the CIA changed the ending of the Hollywood version to portray capitalism in a more positive light.260

Domestic surveillance was also used on journalists who had published classified material. In one example, a physical surveillance post was set up at a Hilton Hotel in view of the office of Washington Post writer Michael Getler.261 The operation defied the CIA's charter, which specifically prohibits domestic spying. The operation was directed towards numerous members of the Washington press corp, and was signed off by John F. Kennedy himself, in coordination with CIA director John McCone.262

One CIA document states: “Get books published or distributed abroad without revealing any U.S. Influence, by covertly subsidizing foreign publicans or booksellers... Get books published for operational reasons, regardless of commercial viability”. The Church Committee concluded that over 1000 books were published under this directive.263

Some investigative journalists have claimed that Operation Mockingbird did not end in 1976 as the CIA claims. For example, in 1998, researcher Steve Kangas claimed that conservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, who ran 'Forum World Features', a foreign news organization, was a CIA asset and used the organization to disseminate propaganda for circulation in the United States.264 Kangas ended up dead with a bullet hole in his head, in the office of Richard Scaife. It was ruled a suicide, although there were discrepancies in the police report and the autopsy.265

The Church Committee's conclusion accurately reflects the problems associated with Operation Mockingbird:

“In examining the CIA’s past and present use of the U.S. media, the Committee finds two reasons for concern. The first is the potential, inherent in covert media operations, for manipulating or incidentally misleading the American public. The second is the damage to the credibility and independence of a free press which may be caused by covert relationships with the U.S. journalists and media organizations.”266

While it is deplorable for citizens of countries to be subjected to a state-owned media, at least they can be aware of the biases and filter information accordingly. We have been taught a lie from birth that the U.S. press is free from government meddling. In a situation where the manipulation is completely covert, the American public has been left unaware of the propaganda they have been ingesting for decades.

Well they don't let anyone on TV or allow them to get popular if they are not an agent or asset of the intel agencies or secret societies [freemasons etc.].

Of course, if you check, both Woodward and Bernstein were themselves intel agents before becoming "journalists."

And Max Kellerman? I have to wonder if he's related to Roy Kellerman who was in the limo and directed agent/driver Wm Greer to shoot President Kennedy.

True conspiracy expert Bill Cooper used to call him Killerman after showing a less doctored version of the Zapruder film.

See

Kellerman is at front passenger seat.

[ThatDude44]

Kellerman is probably the GOAT of boxing analysts.

Paulie....

[boogbx]

How could anybody that loves boxing as much as Max he bad for it?

You may not always agree with him but 2 things.

Of all the sports he speaks on Max sounds most knowledgeable about boxing.

You can tell he lives/ loves the sport.

Not his biggest fan but a fan.

[ShaneMosleySr]

People who hate him are bothered by the fact that he’s completely unbiased and will say things that aren’t always flattering to fighters.

This is perceived as biased against fighters by people who are complete fanboy idiots.

[daggum]

People who hate him are bothered by the fact that he’s completely unbiased and will say things that aren’t always flattering to fighters.

This is perceived as biased against fighters by people who are complete fanboy idiots.

There is no such thing as being unbiased. He wouldn’t even acknowledge the low blows in ward kovalev calling them borderline when clearly low. He loves certain fighters just like any fanboy

[mathed]

Well they don't let anyone on TV or allow them to get popular if they are not an agent or asset of the intel agencies or secret societies [freemasons etc.].

Of course, if you check, both Woodward and Bernstein were themselves intel agents before becoming "journalists."

And Max Kellerman? I have to wonder if he's related to Roy Kellerman who was in the limo and directed agent/driver Wm Greer to shoot President Kennedy.

True conspiracy expert Bill Cooper used to call him Killerman after showing a less doctored version of the Zapruder film.

See

Kellerman is at front passenger seat.

I've got the book, "Behold a Pale Horse" by Bill Cooper. He was not a "conspiracy expert", he was telling the truth about what our government has been hiding from us. They assassinated him for telling the truth.

I highly recommend that book as it reveals the ugly truth about who has been running our government for the last 75 years.

[ShaneMosleySr]

You proved my point here.

The referee didn’t disqualify Andre Ward for low blows and let many of what you say were low blows go as body shots because he felt they were borderline or fair punches.

He’s an objective third party and called the fight fairly. If he didn’t, the state commission or the sanctioning bodies would have suspended him or ruled for a rematch or something to that effect.

Max Kellerman agreed with the ref because he’s objective and felt the punches were fair.

You were rooting for Kovalev to win and feel he got screwed. Because you weren’t being objective, you were rooting for Kovalev.

So you use Kellerman’s opinion, which is unbiased and fair, against him because it goes against the guy you wanted to win.

He doesn’t have a dog in the fight, just like the referee didn’t. You did. You’re the biased one, Kellerman and the referee aren’t biased.

I’m saying this as someone who was a Kovalev fan at the time and wanted him to win.

There is no such thing as being unbiased. He wouldn’t even acknowledge the low blows in ward kovalev calling them borderline when clearly low. He loves certain fighters just like any fanboy