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Counter Arguments To Manny Pacquiao Being an "Eight" Division Champion
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostPac did not win a title at 126 and 140... and you can't really count guys like Diaz and Margarito
Pac is a 3-4 division champ... like Broner
Armstrong held 3 genuine world titles AT THE SAME TIME !!
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Originally posted by strykr619 View PostWho am I going to believe? My own eyes since I can actually look these facts up or some dude on the internet. Sorry but ACTUAL boxing historians say Pacquiao is a 8 Division Champ. Hell even if we went back to the original 8 weights he won titles in 4 of them.
I don't give a fk if the Queen of England calls him a 20x champ
" I can actually look these facts up "
then why are you sitting here arguing with me ?
FACT: Pac did not win a title at 126 or 140... go look it up
and don't be ridiculous... suggesting that Pac would have won 4x titles back in Armstrong's era is exactly what is wrong with shltty casual-fans today
FACT: if there was only one champion at 135, his name would not be David Diaz... and if there was only one champion at 154, his name would not be Antonio Margarito
have some respect... those guys back in the day beat REAL champions... it is MUCH easier to win a title today
titles mean nothing...
WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how
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If Pac can beat thurman level guys at 4o. Why would you have any doubts he could Be a champ in all the divisions below 147?
Of course he's a 8 division champ
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostI don't give a fk if the Queen of England calls him a 20x champ
" I can actually look these facts up "
then why are you sitting here arguing with me ?
FACT: Pac did not win a title at 126 or 140... go look it up
and don't be ridiculous... suggesting that Pac would have won 4x titles back in Armstrong's era is exactly what is wrong with shltty casual-fans today
FACT: if there was only one champion at 135, his name would not be David Diaz... and if there was only one champion at 154, his name would not be Antonio Margarito
have some respect... those guys back in the day beat REAL champions... it is MUCH easier to win a title today
titles mean nothing...
WHO did you beat, with consideration given to when/how
Who was the lineal champion at 126 and at140 again when Pac beat Barrera and Hatton..... Or do you not recognize that title EVEN THOU ITS BEEN THE STANDARD for the last 9 decades in boxing, I bet because it doesn't fit into your narative thou....
Here I will make it easier for you since clearly your either biased or too obtuse to understand.Last edited by strykr619; 08-18-2019, 07:10 PM.
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Yea can't argue with that very much.
Is there anyone else who's considered a multiple weight champ who never won a legit 4 title belt & just won a ring belt? Thats the unique angle to this with Manny. Or do they get talked about as less weight division champs by the masses cuz of that.
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Originally posted by strykr619 View PostBack in the day? Is that your line or argument? If anything they fought weaker competition then is around now. Keep up with your vain argument thou, you know and I know that Pac is an 8 weight world champ (4 weight if we want to use the Original 8 weight divisions).
Who was the lineal champion at 126 and at140 again when Pac beat Barrera and Hatton..... Or do you not recognize that title EVEN THOU ITS BEEN THE STANDARD for the last 9 decades in boxing, I bet because it doesn't fit into your narative thou....
Here I will make it easier for you since clearly your either biased or too obtuse to understand.
no, that is bullshlt.... The Ring is just a ****zine
they do not mandate, and they do not sanction
they are just a ****zine, like this.....
[IMG]//assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5583cd71fb1995762be4330c/master/w_400%2Cc_limit/****zine-2013-04-0413.jpg[/IMG]
Pac did not win a title at 126 or 140... that is just a cool-story-bro
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Originally posted by pasawayako View PostEven if pac fought in the 8 original weight classes he is a 4 division champion and still no one had ever accomplished that.
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View PostThe Ring is just a ****zine
they do not mandate, and they do not sanction
they are just a ****zine, like this.....
[IMG]//assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5583cd71fb1995762be4330c/master/w_400%2Cc_limit/****zine-2013-04-0413.jpg[/IMG]
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In this era he is considered an 8 weight division champ.
The 154 was a circus money grab fight. Neither he or Margo did anything to deserve a shot at that title plus it was at a catchweight agains an in house fighter.
Back in the day there were only half of the weight classes, 15 rounds, same day weigh in and 1 or two belts.
It is not fair to compare fighters from back in the day to now.
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