casual fans need to learn how to score a fight.....

[aboutfkntime]

You're contradicting yourself from one sentence to the next now.

Your thread wasn't the best to begin with, but now you're conflicting it as you go along.

Time for you to post your famous Canelo laughing gif and move along. The threads died on it's arse.

the ONLY thing that..... " died on it's arse "..... are the casual-fan idiots who do not think that defence should be official scoring criteria

just wow

the very signature of an idiot casual-fan, is that they do not value or appreciate defence

FACT: defence IS official scoring criteria..... right alongside ring-generalship and effective aggression

surprise, surprise..... fans of the guy who missed 1000+ punches, could not get his game going, and got beaten up..... do not appreciate defense, ring generalship, and clean hard punching..... no no, "volume"..... is suddenly more important than the official rules ahahaha

[aboutfkntime]

surprise, surprise.....

..... fans of the guy who missed 1000+ punches... who could not get his game going... and who got beaten up..... do not appreciate defense, ring generalship, and clean hard punching LMAO

..... no no, " volume "..... is suddenly more important than the official rules LMAO

[aboutfkntime]

oh, no.....

defence ?

no way.....

we simply cannot have that now.....

..... can we .....?

loooool

[Boxing_1013]

oh, no.....

defence ?

no way.....

we simply cannot have that now.....

..... can we .....?

loooool

Steve Weisfeld (and every other top judge in the world, according to him):

"Defense: Defense is important because it helps a boxer set up his offense. Most judges that I have spoken to do not give credit for defense alone. If a boxer has a good defense, it means that he is not being hit with punches. But let's remember the purpose of the sport: to land punches on your opponent.

If Boxer A throws 10 punches in a round, but lands none of them, and Boxer B lands zero and throws zero, you still have an even round with no punches landing. You don't want to create a disincentive for a boxer to land punches if he thinks he's going to be penalized for missing."

Come on bro just take the L here...be a man and admit you are off on this one.

[aboutfkntime]

The official rules of boxing?? Are you serious. Those points you listed are not found in any boxing rule book to my knowledge.

Taken from Boxrec

The rules of boxing vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and on whether it is an amateur or professional bout. A violation of the following rules is considered a foul, and can result in a warning, point deduction, or disqualification by the referee:

You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.
You cannot hit with your head, shoulder, forearm, or elbow.
You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand.
You cannot punch your opponent's back, or the back of his head or neck (rabbit punch), or on the kidneys (kidney punch).
You cannot throw a punch while holding on to the ropes to gain leverage.
You can't hold your opponent and hit him at the same time, or duck so low that your head is below your opponent's belt line.
When the referee breaks you from a clinch, you have to take a full step back; you cannot immediately hit your opponent--that's called "hitting on the break" and is illegal.
You cannot spit out your mouthpiece on purpose to get a rest.
If you score a knockdown of your opponent, you must go to the farthest neutral corner while the referee makes the count.
If you "floor" your opponent, you cannot hit him when he's on the canvas.
A floored boxer has up to ten seconds to get back up on his feet before losing the bout by knockout.
A boxer who is knocked down cannot be saved by the bell in any round, depending upon the local jurisdiction's rules.
A boxer who is hit with an accidental low blow has up to five minutes to recover. If s/he cannot continue after five minutes, s/he is considered knocked out.
If the foul results in an injury that causes the fight to end immediately, the boxer who committed the foul is disqualified.
If the foul causes an injury but the bout continues, the referee orders the judges to deduct two points from the boxer who caused the injury.
If an unintentional foul causes the bout to be stopped immediately, the bout is ruled a "no contest" if four rounds have not been fully completed. (If the bout was scheduled for four rounds, then three rounds must have been completed.) If four rounds have been completed, the judges' scorecards are tallied and the fighter who is ahead on points is awarded a technical decision. If the scores are even, it will be called a "technical draw."
If a boxer is knocked out of the ring, he gets a count of 20 to get back in and on his feet. He cannot be assisted.
In some jurisdictions the standing eight-count or the three knockdown rule also may be in effect.
In other jurisdictions, only the referee can stop the bout.

They certainly aren't in the rules of boxing. So where are they. Where they are is as a general guide for judges on how to score close rounds if they can't decide who won the round. The interpretation of defense ring generalship etc. is highly subjective and is viewed differently and weighed differently by various judges and fans. The fact that you can't recognize that punching is the essence of boxing is incredible. So you can hold your breath till you turn blue, throw a temper tantrum call people names who disagree with your interpretation but you are only one opinion.

I did not say they are the " rules " of boxing..... you corn-fed gimp

FACT: they are the OFFICIAL judging criteria

* clean hard punching
* effective aggression
* defence
* ring generalship

what the hell is wrong with you..... ?






you are ridiculous Tony

keep thinking that defence is a dirty word

[Combat Talk Radio]

Casuals (and incompetent judges) score Ring Generalship above everything (not that they actually know what they're judging). It's a ridiculous premise that disregards the other 3 criteria.

Looking like the ring general gives the fighter with it an edge, but that edge can be overcome by being superior in 2 of the 3 remaining judging criteria from round to round (eg. Canelo's edge superior clean punching and excellent defense neutralized GGG in the first fight even though GGG was the clear ring general (the other criteria clearly states Effective Aggression, not Ineffective which is what GGG was for the majority of the fight)).

You can't win a round just by controlling (or looking like you're controlling) the fight, when the other fighter is clearly edging you in the other criteria.

Silliness.

There's a pattern I see on NSB. They don't seem capable of scoring for the guy who's walking the other guy down.

If you don't look dominant and you're getting walked down, you're NOT winning. I don't care what you say. We've seen it time and again.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Steve Weisfeld (and every other top judge in the world, according to him):

"Defense: Defense is important because it helps a boxer set up his offense. Most judges that I have spoken to do not give credit for defense alone. If a boxer has a good defense, it means that he is not being hit with punches. But let's remember the purpose of the sport: to land punches on your opponent.

If Boxer A throws 10 punches in a round, but lands none of them, and Boxer B lands zero and throws zero, you still have an even round with no punches landing. You don't want to create a disincentive for a boxer to land punches if he thinks he's going to be penalized for missing."

Come on bro just take the L here...be a man and admit you are off on this one.

Weisfeld is wrong. As someone was once taught back in the 70's, unless there's a KNOCKDOWN...the aggressor almost always wins the round.

[aboutfkntime]

Steve Weisfeld (and every other top judge in the world, according to him):

Defense: Defense is important

son, defense is important because it is one of the 4 OFFICIAL scoring criteria..... regardless as to what you, Weisfeld, or anyone else thinks.....

FACT:

* clean hard punching
* effective aggression
* defence
* ring generalship

and the 3x judges who scored that fight proved it !!

keep thinking that defence is not official scoring criteria..... while guys like Mayweather, Ward, Canelo, and almost ALL of the current panel of top line judges..... keep proving you (and Weisfeld) wrong

[Boxing_1013]

Weisfeld is wrong. As someone was once taught back in the 70's, unless there's a KNOCKDOWN...the aggressor almost always wins the round.

I mean...if 0 punches are landed I could see a draw in the round...boxing is all about who is landing more and who is landing better. All there is to it really my friend.

Often times I agree that the aggressor is the winner...however the fighter going backwards can at times box very well and win a clear round. Lara/Mayweather were good examples of this.

Not to mention that 'aggressor' can be a bit subjective at times...I've seen some create narratives for fights about their guy being the aggressor when it wasn't really true...

Anyway it is all about hit and not get it my friend...that's boxing.

[QueensburyRules]

to prevent users from continually embarrassing themselves, I am creating this educational thread to teach new (and old, lol) posters how to score a professional boxing match

let the lesson begin...



1.) the groundwork:

before we can arm you with the knowledge that you will need to survive in the cutthroat world of professional judging, we need to ensure that any incorrect perceptions are thoroughly removed from your mindset

strictly perform the following steps in order.....

* strip naked

- -What grade you in fkn, 7th?

First off the 10 pt must system nothing more than a shell game.

Second judges need to know how to score a fight, not fans, and refs to fairly officiate a fight. This rarely happens in tandem.

And I don't have to be naked to know that, so I suggest you dress your carcass and find a minder to help you thru this infantile funk you in.