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    #31
    Originally posted by MisanthropicNY View Post
    Hearn failed as a promoter big time. He waited too long to milk the Wilder/Fury fights and his fighter lost. Now Joshua has to build himself to make those fights big time again. He'd have to take his game to another level.
    Not sure, the Andy rematch will be big, and if AJ wins his title back, they might go for a third big event in UK or Mexico

    Then he can fight WILDER and FURY.

    So if Joshua wins the rematch, it will be bonus for Hearn as Ruiz emerged as a fourth player on the HW scene and they might have 2 or 3 fights together...

    If Joshua loses the rematch, matchroom will be done for sure.

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      #32
      These 2 mooks are so irrelevant now that boxingscene didn't even bother correcting Hearns name on the title lol

      Oh has anyone heard from those pu/ssy holes lfc19titles, Syd-nee,bundoo, and Jubei?

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        #33
        Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
        People are acting like Joshua walked into a lucky punch. Joshua got the **** beat out of him for seven rounds and quit.
        Yeah, I cant remember too many fights that were this one sided where a fighter was systematically broken down where they won a rematch.

        Joshua hit Ruiz as hard as he could, Ruiz got up, tightening up his defense, and went to work.

        Ruiz is deceptively good at catching parrying and countering, and he has the speed to do it in combinations.

        They really big dudes like Joshua, with the exception of probably Tyson Fury, don't have the hand speed, body speed, foot speed, etc to deal with a really fast guy that can counter their jabs.

        Joshua doesn't have a bad jab. But just trying to jab at ruiz, which you would think would be the best thing for him to do got him in trouble.

        Ruiz kept countering the jab, because Joshua just can't get it back to defend himself before Ruiz can get his shots in.

        Its a problem that I don't see a solution to for Joshua. He just cant handle this kind of speed.

        They say speed kills. Andry Ruiz's speed and technique killed Joshua.

        Ruiz also fought a calm composed fight, didn't leave any sloppy openings while he was walking him down and breaking him down.

        Get past his physique and Ruiz is very sound fundamentally. He is also capable of stepping it up a level also. I don't think he even really had to dig deep to dismantle Joshua.

        Judging from his other fights, he had a lot he was holding in reserve. They were probably planning for the late rounds, but they stopped him fairly early.

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          #34
          Personally, I would like to see AJ take at least a year long sabbatical away from the sport by getting some much needed rest but that's just not possible because Matchroom Sport needs him.

          Matchroom would go out of business without Anthony Joshua. I hate to say it but in a rematch, I believe AJ loses to Andy Ruiz again. I just don't believe that he is all the way back, psychologically speaking from that KO.

          He is going to become even more gun shy and less confident in the fact that he knows he's in there with a guy who can punch and hurt him.

          Damn, Matchroom has literally ruined this kid's career. What a great tragedy? It's very sad.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post
            I think AJ never recovered from the first KD and it didn't help him for the remaining rounds.

            Somehow, I think he wasn't ready for the war Ruiz brought to him but more for a US MSG showcase.


            AJ will have to fight a perfect fight in the rematch, if he does he wins 100% IMO

            Ruiz might def have his number.
            I just think it comes down to the fact that Joshua is a little too big for his own good. He isn't fast enough to get out of the way of Ruiz's shots. He cant handle the speed.

            If someone is too fast for you, and is counterpunching. There isn't really anything you will ever be able to do about it.

            He was trying to fight off the jab, but Ruiz was fast enough to counter his jab with that left hook right hand.

            You hear Joshua between rounds. He even said he thinks Ruiz is waiting for the left hook, and he knew he was throwing it as a counter to his jab.

            He had no solution to this. He asked for answers from his corner. They had no solutions either, because the problem was Ruiz's speed.

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              #36
              Originally posted by MisanthropicNY View Post
              Hearn failed as a promoter big time. He waited too long to milk the Wilder/Fury fights and his fighter lost. Now Joshua has to build himself to make those fights big time again. He'd have to take his game to another level.
              He should have learned from Bob Arum failing to make Gamboa vs Juanma before Juanma got pummeled.

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                #37
                Originally posted by BoxHec View Post
                They want the titles back to AJ? but for what? for ducking the most dangerous opponents again and for years? and at the same time accusing; everyday for years, those opponents of not wanting to face AJ ? NO THANKS!!

                Moneymakers behind Wilder should try to make a checkmate on AJ & brithead hearn, by proposing a huge money to Andy Ruiz Jr. to face Wilder before the Ruiz/AJ rematch clause, from that, if Wilder wins (and will) against Ruiz, toto joshua wil be forced to take on Wilder if he want to be world champ again.. in a perfect world of course because we know how corrupted the world of boxing (and combat sports in general) is
                How would that work? If what wilder says is true that he is signed tonight ortiz already and if fury fight is signed how they gonna fight Ruiz ? Their schedule is full up till atleast mid 2020. Also if theres an immediate rematch clause and Joshua exercises it then wilder's team cant do nothing about it.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Pennsauken1 View Post
                  AJ should retire
                  No way and not before being hardly KOd by Wilder in a couple of round and being stopped by Usik & Fury after 8 rounds, they hype AJ for too long and it's time now to pay the price..

                  Fake gold medalist as fake undisputed world champion, and how politics & money can make a huge superstar and can fool 99% of people

                  And everyone who say that Joshua defeated Erislandy Savon at the OG of London is a FAKE boxing fan


                  AJ is the first to know that he's protected since the beginning of the 2012 Olympic Games and until now, so he has to make a choice now, still doing the same B.S over & over or he decide to prove that he got the heart of a champ by facing Wilder, Fury, Usyk or even pappy Ortiz & Joyce, loses or wins no matters, just stepping into the ring with the best will prove something

                  If Anthony Joshua want to be a real champ, that how his career will ending
                  2019: 2 L by TKO to Ruiz Jr.
                  2020: L by KO to Wilder in a couple or round
                  2020: L by TKO to Fury (after 8 rounds)
                  2021: L by TKO to Usyk (after 8 rounds)
                  2021: L by KO to Joyce (or other today prospect) in a couple or round

                  Last 6 fights of AJ career ... 6 defeats by stoppages!

                  LOL!
                  Last edited by BoxHec; 06-04-2019, 11:05 AM.

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                    #39
                    Originally Posted by BoxHec View Post
                    They want the titles back to AJ? but for what? for ducking the most dangerous opponents again and for years? and at the same time accusing; everyday for years, those opponents of not wanting to face AJ ? NO THANKS!!

                    Moneymakers behind Wilder should try to make a checkmate on AJ & brithead hearn, by proposing a huge money to Andy Ruiz Jr. to face Wilder before the Ruiz/AJ rematch clause, from that, if Wilder wins (and will) against Ruiz, toto joshua wil be forced to take on Wilder if he want to be world champ again.. in a perfect world of course because we know how corrupted the world of boxing (and combat sports in general) is

                    Originally posted by vaborikua2014 View Post
                    How would that work? If what wilder says is true that he is signed tonight ortiz already and if fury fight is signed how they gonna fight Ruiz ? Their schedule is full up till atleast mid 2020. Also if theres an immediate rematch clause and Joshua exercises it then wilder's team cant do nothing about it.
                    Politics all over again... and boxing fans should stop being fooled by all that B.S business side of boxing.

                    "an immediate rematch clause": AJ can't step into the ring before 5 months, Ruiz Jr has 2 fights the last two months.. Wilder can pay Ortiz some big money to wait

                    An if AJ say to Hearn & dazn "I don't care about what you say, I want Wilder next" and at the same time Wilder say that he only want AJ next sot that fight will happen next, a great trainer of a former great boxer said one day that the superstars boxers are the ones who can decide who they want to fight

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                      #40
                      Pray the rematch is not taking place in Mexico

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