Has crawford or Loma faced anyone close to beign on the top ten pound for pound list and the answer is no crawford wont fight spence and Loma wont fight Mikey.. thats the difference Canelo fought pound for pound guy GGG twice he takes the risk that these guys dont want to or theyre promoter doesent let them and that should count for something at least un my opinion..
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Originally posted by El Gitano View PostFielding was a tall 168 lber and Alvarez chopped him down, Chavez was huge vs Alvarez and Canelo didn't sit down once in between rounds, I can still see Liam Smith wilting in pain from the body shots that broke him down, I went "damn" when Amir Khan was knocked the eff out, same with James Kirkland, I remember Alfredo Angulo fight needing to be stopped, Austin Trout did the Bambi dance vs Alvarez, I remember Canelo taking it easy vs Gomez, then exploded forcing the stoppage, I still remember how Baldomir fell............. are those opponents at the same level of the guys the article mentions as the best opponents Loma and Crawford have faced?
Maybe Loma and Crawford have looked spectacular because they haven't faced anyone at the level of a GGG, Jacobs, Lara....?????
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Originally posted by Mikr69103 View PostHas crawford or Loma faced anyone close to beign on the top ten pound for pound list and the answer is no crawford wont fight spence and Loma wont fight Mikey.. thats the difference Canelo fought pound for pound guy GGG twice he takes the risk that these guys dont want to or theyre promoter doesent let them and that should count for something at least un my opinion..
Like I’ve said before these so called “boxing writers” are jokes plain and simple biased as fucxcck
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Crawford almost got stopped by a much smaller opponent, Gamboa, who actually fights like a less skilled version of Canelo in some ways, so if Crawford and Canelo were the same size, I could see that being Canelo's first signature KO of a top name his size.
If Loma was Canelo's size, well yeah, that would be like 12 rounds or less of the worst rounds Canelo had against Lara, multiplied times five. There's nothing in Lomachenko's career except Salido that would suggest a Canelo his size would give him any trouble, and remember, Salido was not his size. The whole reason Salido gave Lomachenko trouble was the 10 pound weight advantage. So yeah, a 10 pound bigger Canelo might trouble Loma too, if it was Loma's 2nd pro fight, first ever 12 round fight, and the ref let Canelo foul all night, but even then, Salido is the southpaw expert, Canelo isn't, Salido is a pressure fighter, Canelo has become more of one lately but... you get the point.
If Canelo was actually the same size as Loma though, no one weighing Loma's weight in the ring has really even won a round against him his entire career. Maybe Pedraza won 1 round against him or something but that wasn't a 100% Loma and we don't know if Pedraza didn't have a big weight advantage over Loma too. That fight was at 135 and that's not Loma's natural weight.
Instead of thinking about Canelo vs Loma if both were 160, instead picture a 130 pounder version of Canelo fighting Loma at 130. Would it even be competitive? IMO no.
Crawford on the other hand, the way he struggled with Gamboa and Burns, the way Benavidez and even Jeff Horn were clipping him with big shots, the way Crawford looked so uncomfortable in the ring vs Postol, there are lots of reasons from his career to believe that a 140 pounder Canelo vs a 140 pounder Crawford would KO Crawford. Crawford is no Loma. He might be a better athlete, faster longer etc, but Crawford "only" has top 20 or top 30 skills for his era, Loma has possibly top 20 or top 30 skills all time. That's a big difference. Of course, Loma doesn't have Crawford's reach, so there are pros and cons to each, but I think ATG skills with a short reach still *****s a great reach without ATG skills, probably by a long shot.
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Originally posted by Mikr69103 View PostHas crawford or Loma faced anyone close to beign on the top ten pound for pound list and the answer is no crawford wont fight spence and Loma wont fight Mikey.. thats the difference Canelo fought pound for pound guy GGG twice he takes the risk that these guys dont want to or theyre promoter doesent let them and that should count for something at least un my opinion..Last edited by Shape up; 05-11-2019, 02:22 AM.
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Originally posted by Shape up View PostLoma has called out Mickey for the last 12 months, he has also called out Davis for the last 12 months, Canelo tries to put stipulations in place, 155lb, weight restrictions , dropping belts, how does trying to disadvantage your opponent add to your P4P ranking
LARA's 155+ fights...
158 - Lara vs Maslov
154.5 - Lara vs Gross
155 - Lara vs Gray
155 - Lara vs Boone
155 - Lara vs Varela
155.5 - Lara vs Perez
156.5 - Lara vs Correa
155 - Lara vs Perez
156.5 - Lara vs Hearns
154.5 - Lara vs Hernandez
155 - Lara vs Alvarez
KIRKLAND's 155+ fights...
163 - Kirkland vs Castillo
159 - Kirkland vs Estrada
155 - Kirkland vs Toribio
155 - Kirkland vs Lyell
155.7 - Kirkland vs Duran
154.5 - Kirkland Said Salem
157 - Kirkland vs Cortes
156 - Kirkland vs Vera
162.5 - Kirkland vs Gibbs
163.5 - Kirkland vs Berrio
158 - Kirkland vs Ishida
160 - Kirkland vs Sharpe
157.5 - Kirkland vs Hloros
155.4 - Kirkland vs Tapia
155 - Kirkland vs Alvarez
ANGULO's 155+ fights...
156.5 - Angulo vs Padron
157.5 - Angulo vs Taylor
158 - Angulo vs Stanislajevic
157 - Angulo vs Mada
156 - Angulo vs Gonzalez
155 - Angulo vs Rosado
154.5 - Angulo vs Silva
154.5 - Angulo vs Alvarez
162 - Angulo vs Rosa
162 - Angulo vs Raines
163 - Angulo vs Munoz
164.5 - Angulo vs Hernandez
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