Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez is an Excellent Fighter... But Not The Best

[kushking]

Yes of course your a racist you don't think Canelo is the TBE.

Yes you haters need to stick together & continue creating imaginary strawmen to give impression of taking moral high ground. Keep deluding yourselves clowns

[chrisJS]

Your the same nuthugger who called me racist because I said & I qoute:"Loma is an excellent elite fighter but he still has a lot to prove,he got dropped by linares & lost to salido despite the asterisk....Lomas has no business fighting against anyone below natural 130 lbers(no marriagas or others hes dragged up),his best win is Linares & the other champs he faced were still relatively unproven & still up & comers or they were too small for a beast like him to have dragged up...... Or...... Loma has been touted as p4p#1 by Atlas since his 4th or 5th fight"


You proceeded to storm away in anger verbally,& you attacked me as a "hates white fighters racist" despite me having NEVER shown the slightest bias based on race but merely just on how white fighters are worshipped & other more worthy are ****ted on because their not american/white/euros. I have ALWAYS called it how I see it & have ALWAYS rated resume above all others.


You a straight up groupie loma/crawford top rank nuthugger who hates on other fighters because you see them as a threat to their status as p4p#1 fake espn ranking. I suspect that you work for top rank without a doubt.

I 1000% do not work for them. We can try to do some type of bet to confirm it. Money and/or loser leaves the site?

You are a groupie. You’ve said I am racist against Mexicans because I don’t think Canelo is god when it’s been clear since I’ve been a member here longer than you’ve been a boxing fan most of my all-time favorite boxers are Latino and Mexican as is about 80% of my personal inner circle.

[Citizen Koba]

We are doing what this reporter did....giving our opinion, on his opinion.

If having the best resume doesn't = being the best ATM, then what does

Absolutely, man, we all entitled to our opinions and if you believe Canelo to be qualitatively the best fighter on the planet then that's your right. If you can't wrap your head around the concept that a better fighter might not - in theory - have as good a resume (for lack of opportunity or whatever other reason) though then there ain't much point me wasting words trying to explain it to you.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Hello my name is Chris and my favorite fighter of all-time is Juan Manuel Marquez and I had Salvador Sanchez, Ruben Olivares and Rafael Marquez in my all-time top 10 favorites too. My current top 3 favorites includes Juan Francisco Estrada. I have no white fighter in my all-time favorite list and my current favorite boxer is Terence Crawford. Am I racist against whites?

You are a sensitive little nutthugger.

Man, you can say this but then you are able to say things like:

"Salvador Sánchez is not at the top-ten list of best latinos fighters of all time "

You use a different criteria.

Example.


Give us your top ten list P4P right now...

[Marvlus Marv]

He got schooled by a great fighter so Canelo can't be great himself. The MW division(s) have been pisspoor for ages.

[chrisJS]

Man, you can say this but then you are able to say things like:

"Salvador Sánchez is not at the top-ten list of best latinos fighters of all time "

You use a different criteria.

Example.


Give us your top ten list P4P right now...

Sanchez is on my personal Mount Rushmore of favorite fighters but I am objective too. I also have Marquez outside that top 10 and Trinidad and those are two of the other Mount Rushmore members for me. It’s called objectivity.

Right now?

1. Loma
2. Crawford
3. Usyk
4. Inoue
5. Estrada
6. Canelo
7. Spence
8. Golovkin
9. Garcia
10. Joshua

The last two I had a hard time with as there’s about 3-4 other guys right there too.

I have a problem with Canelo’s failed tests and I personally had him 0-2 vs. GGG who I always maintained was overrated and had him losing to Lara.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Sanchez is on my personal Mount Rushmore of favorite fighters but I am objective too. I also have Marquez outside that top 10 and Trinidad and those are two of the other Mount Rushmore members for me. It’s called objectivity.

Right now?

1. Loma
2. Crawford
3. Usyk
4. Inoue
5. Estrada
6. Canelo
7. Spence
8. Golovkin
9. Garcia
10. Joshua

The last two I had a hard time with as there’s about 3-4 other guys right there too.

I have a problem with Canelo’s failed tests and I personally had him 0-2 vs. GGG who I always maintained was overrated and had him losing to Lara.

Man, your way to evaluate fighters does not means objectivity.

Canelo failed TEST (it was one, and it was proven that was by tainted meat, now he is enrolled in the hardest VADA tests).


Clearly your way to evaluate fighters has a lot of holes.

For example, you don't care about quality of their opposition
.

Thats a huge mistake

And it does not care how you think this or that, is about the reality canelo won a close fight against ggg in the second


A lot of people think that Floyd Lost against Castillo I but that was not the truth, Floyd won a close fight but he has a lot of haters

It's the same with Nelo, that was a very good performance and a good close win .

Inoue? Great skills but he is not proven , his best win is a shot and old Narváez

[sicko]

Man, Canelo has amazing skills and he is very very very strong.

He was 175 against Danny that walked in the ring near of 190 and Canelo did a very good job and took the best of Jacobs.

And he has a very high IQ boxing

Exactly! That part of boxing is not respected enough, all people want to talk about is "POWER!" "KNOCKOUTS!" and "SIZE"

[Jubei]

GGG is the #1, untouchable in his prime, made the ginger cheat drop his belt and use PEDs out of absolute fear. Still clearly beat Canelo at age 35 and edged him out in the rematch at age 36, an age where Canelo himself says fighters deteriorate so much that he wants to be retired by then.

Prime GGG vs Prime Canelo is no match, GGG obliterates Canelo.

Very close win vs Jacobs and Trout who is at best B level. GGG hurt Jacobs and beat him in his prime. Should have also lost to Lara, so that makes Canelo a good fighter, but he wont be anywhere close to where he is now thanks to all the corruption and favoritism.

[Joe shmo]

I'm not an AJ fanboi, actualley I've been flamed incessantly for saying he swerved Wilder last yr.(though I rate AJ far above Wilder atm) & Miller got popped 2x for straight up roids while holding camp in Brooklyn. There was zero possible excuses he could even make up 4 being popped 4 those straight up multiple roid cöcktail. (If he ever came back after yrs of punishment & dominated or even won the belts controversially I'd still rank him for the wins.)


This has been beaten to death already,but in Mexico the majority of meat has been proven in countless studies even by fifa to contain the very weak clen which they concluded has no effect on athletes who tested positive for it while competing in mexico. Canelo was cleared by nsac & every other org because his hair follicle test proved he couldn't possibly have been doping. Top it off with the fact that this was Canelos 1st camp in Mexico because he was being hated on 4 ALWAYS holding camp in san diego. Then he was popped 3 days apart 4 a few molecules of clen COMPLETELY consistent with eating clen meat that fifa had even proven was in most the finest restaurants in Mexico.

I know I won't change anyones mind because its already usually made up. But thats my logic in giving him benefit of the doubt because hes on vada 365 & was 1st ppv fighter to demand it for every fight even when JCC jr demanded a weaker testing right before he faced ggg 1st time. He could've easily cheated then if he wanted to dope 4 ggg, don't you think?

First, I didn't call u an AJ fanboi, I just called u a fan. Second, people can change my mind if they have a valid argument. Now I agree that Miller popping dirty was way worse but the tainted meat excuse is old as hell. Every Mexican athlete that's ever got cought for clen has used the same excuse for years. There's no way someone who's been in the sports industry for years, who's from that country, didn't know better. He got caught and cause he's the Golden boy of boxing he gets a pass. Don't get me wrong, I still think he's an extremely talented fighter, I'm just kinda put off with the favored scoring and Ped use. I don't hate him, I respect him as a great fighter, I just don't really like him that much anymore. I mean Ortiz proved he popped dirty cause of heart medication he failed to report and he gets more **** than canelo. Saunders popped by vada for an ingredient in nasel spray that isn't even on the ukad list and he gets way more **** too. It just seems like there's always a double standard when it comes to canelo.