Comments Thread For: Chavez Sr: Canelo Among Mexico's Best 10, But Not in Top 3 or 4

[nalamboxing]

Just off the top of my head:

1. JCC
2. JMM
3. MAB
4. Ricardo Lopez
5. Erik Morales

All had better resumes than Canola, and that's just going back to the 90's. Sure there were others from earlier eras like Salvador Sanchez, Carlos Zarate, Ruben Olivares?? etc., who were better than him too.

Casuals are so easily influenced by recency bias lol.

I rate both Sanchez and Zarate higher than MAB and Morales as those two are among the best of all time amongst their division especially Sanchez. But I agree with your statement 100% Canelo needs a really convincing win over someone like GGG or a next world title at 168 to solidify himself as Top 5 Mexican boxer. He’s got a great style don’t get me wrong but compared to the other Mexican greats, his work rate and endurance issues severely hurts his case. He’s in his prime now though so he can always end up proving people wrong.

[Verus]

Roberto Duran was not and will never be among the top Mexican fighters. Think about it.

[Verus]

Juan manuel marquez is the mexican goat

Please don't display your ignorance so publically. You are embarrassing yourself.

[Infa]

Salvador Sanchez??!! And Please! Jacobs admitted in the beginning couldn't figure out Canelo's movement speed and Canelo took it easy after the 1st half knowing he had it in the bag already.

[Death_Adder]

oh wow that changes everything.

Who the fuck is talking to you idiot

[luigi1964]

I agree with the great chavez. Canelo did good, his movement was amazing dodging those punches but he did better against GGG, was more aggresive. He no doubt lost the first fight but he changed things for second fight and was very impressed. GGG fights the same always and also need to change. When they fight again Canelo wins again. He now knows how to beat him. Still I want more attacking.

[Clubber Pac]

I am an African American, not a Mexican, so if I am wrong, feel free to correct me.

I feel like the legendary Mexican fighters are hating on Canelo, JMM actually attempted to claim that Jacobs won the fight, now Chavez is saying, that Canelo, who commercially has surpassed any Mexican fighter ever, and is developing into an All Time Great, is not a top 3 or 4 fighter of all time in the context of Mexican fighters.

That's BS, crap, of course he is, there has never been someone like him, he crossed over to a level superstardom that is unprecedented. Chavez was beloved in Mexico, and greatly respected in the US.

Canelo is beyond that, he is a crossover mainstream sports star, much more marketable than Chavez ever was, there is a massive difference, and if he continues to develop at this rate, he will be seen as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time hands down.

[Morandis]

Wow! The Canelo hate is very strong in Mexico. Even the legends are jealous of him. Before his career is over he will be in the top 3.

Chavez is not wrong. Himself, Sal Sánchez, JMM, Carlos Zárate and maybe Olivares and MAB are still ahead of him. Canto possibly, or Finito if you care about straws.

I believe though that he's going to surpass everyone on that list except the top 2.

[boogbx]

Salvador Sanchez & Julio Cesar Chavez

Will always rank above Canelo
on skill set and resume alone.

[Morandis]

I am an African American, not a Mexican, so if I am wrong, feel free to correct me.

I feel like the legendary Mexican fighters are hating on Canelo, JMM actually attempted to claim that Jacobs won the fight, now Chavez is saying, that Canelo, who commercially has surpassed any Mexican fighter ever, and is developing into an All Time Great, is not a top 3 or 4 fighter of all time in the context of Mexican fighters.

That's BS, crap, of course he is, there has never been someone like him, he crossed over to a level superstardom that is unprecedented. Chavez was beloved in Mexico, and greatly respected in the US.

Canelo is beyond that, he is a crossover mainstream sports star, much more marketable than Chavez ever was, there is a massive difference, and if he continues to develop at this rate, he will be seen as the greatest Mexican fighter of all time hands down.

He's the most popular Mexican fighter ever outside of Mexico, if that makes sense (he is not as loved here as he totally should), and also the only one who's been any good above welter.

To finally and decisively conquer the Mexican fans he still needs to have a classic all out Mexican battle. JMM only became a fan favorite after he beat Pacquiao. Terrible and MAB had their trilogy and we loved them both for it (beating Pac and Hamed didn't hurt them too). Chavez was always Chavez. Notably, Sanchez shut Wilfredo Gomez up, and so he instantly reached legend status.

While GGG is arguably better than any of the fighters Chavez ever beat, we hardly knew him and didn't hate him at all, like we did Gomez or Camacho. So Canelo needs that.

But purely as a boxer, he has yet to crack the top 5. Chavez, Sal and Zarate are clearly still above him, and maybe a couple more as well.