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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostGGG's ship didn't just come in. He's been getting paid. So Abel's been getting paid too.
Granted there is this new deal thats probably his best deal per fight, but it did have the coincidence of lining up with GGG cleaning house before the deal got made so in that way it was unlucky for Abel I'd agree.
I looked into this when all this sh^t went down. This is the norm for huge draws. SRL was doing this in the 70s ffs.
GGG isn't being greedy he's being normal. How much is training worth ffs? Is there no ceiling on it? Should Floyd Sr had made $25M for the Manny fight? Should that MMA guy made $10M for McConor's fight with Floyd? I mean respect to what trainers do & loyalty does have value, but idk if a guy holding pads for 6 weeks for 2hrs a day should ever be worth a multimillion dollar payday. If a fighter is willing to give it fair play. But I don't think thats a fair expectation.
And Abel coulda been open to w/e % but GGG was able to pay what he wanted to pay. Its a business agreement. A guy can offer you whatever he wants to & you can accept it or not when there is no contract. And thats what happened.
I know that Freddie Roach is the highest paid trainer in boxing thanks to how generous Manny Pacquiao is. I remember Floyd Sr getting jealous of how much Roach got paid he said Manny was overpaying him and not even training him or teaching him crap.
I think it was Koncz who claimed that Roach got paid 5 million or something for the Floyd vs Pac fight, its no wonder Roach never talked crap about Manny when he left, he knew Pacman was his cash cow.
Pacman basically writes down an amount on Paper slides it to Roach and Roach nods his head in agreement and Pac writes the check. I always hear its at least a million, Pac gave Alex Ariza a brand new Maserati and matching rolex, he also paid Ariza over 100k per fight.
Yet Ariza is a piece of **** talking crap on Manny, I never liked Ariza Manny and Roach made him if it werent for Roach giving him a shot to train Pacman Ariza would never be where he is at now.
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostDraws don't get much bigger than Oscar De La Hoya. He paid Floyd Sr. up to $300,00 and was even willing to pay him $500,000 for the PBF fight...plus another $500,000 in the event he won.
He did however corner Oscar for the Mayorga fight & Oscar made $20M for that fight & if Floyd Sr made $300k thats only 1.5%. You're arguing my point with that example.
If GGG wants to go cheap and keep more money for his family then Max is the obvious choice as his new trainer. He ticks off both boxes.
Here's Angelo Dundee talking about his SRL deal & how he made $175k for the Hagler fight. SRL made $12M for Hagler. Thats 1.4% for Dundee.
And these types of numbers & fees are all over the place in news articles if you look. GGG isn't out of pocket AT ALL with this. And to be fair Abel isn't out of pocket for expecting the same deal. So neither is at fault for this situation ending. The main thing I, & I suspect most, took issue with his Abel crying in the media.
Angelo said, "Trainer rushed me into signing a new contract that he hand wrote and gave to me at ringside in Tucson in 1979. It cut two years off my 15 percent contract with them and spelled out I would only get $100,000 for title fights, $50,000 for non-title . . . They did relent when they gave me $175,000 for working with Ray in the Hagler fight."
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Originally posted by Death_Adder View Post97k must think that him having a press conference tomorrow of all days is going to take the spotlight away from Canelo's fight.
He should get one of the Mayweathers or another black trainer. Learn Black style, since he couldn't learn Mexican style, the style of running your way to a victory.
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Originally posted by hectari View Postyeah once these fighters start making 50 to 100 million that 10 percent **** is out the window, Abel got greedy he saw that GGG would be making 100 million for 3 years and some change and instead of taking 300k per fight or whatever he wanted 10 percent. Dude is straight up greedy, I bet GGG gave him way more than he was making before.
I know that Freddie Roach is the highest paid trainer in boxing thanks to how generous Manny Pacquiao is. I remember Floyd Sr getting jealous of how much Roach got paid he said Manny was overpaying him and not even training him or teaching him crap.
I think it was Koncz who claimed that Roach got paid 5 million or something for the Floyd vs Pac fight, its no wonder Roach never talked crap about Manny when he left, he knew Pacman was his cash cow.
Pacman basically writes down an amount on Paper slides it to Roach and Roach nods his head in agreement and Pac writes the check. I always hear its at least a million, Pac gave Alex Ariza a brand new Maserati and matching rolex, he also paid Ariza over 100k per fight.
Yet Ariza is a piece of **** talking crap on Manny, I never liked Ariza Manny and Roach made him if it werent for Roach giving him a shot to train Pacman Ariza would never be where he is at now.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostYea when Kim was talking about this on his show he mentioned Freddie to & yea he mentioned Freddie has made more money than most boxers in boxing history cuz of Manny. So yea it definitely happens where guys keep up the high pay or 10%, but its the exception not the rule when you start getting into these 8 digit purses.
Roach was getting paid big money more than most fighters. I remember Manny gave over 250 thousand dollars during a weight loss challenge he throws money around, he is bound to be broke.
Alex Ariza is what you call a bozo, the guy burned the wrong bridge he is not humble cant stand that clown, Pacman and Roach made him.
I can understand his beef with Roach but with Manny he went to far by insulting him before all his recent fights saying Pacman is old washed up and done and all this crap about him being lazy
Pacman is far from lazy, dude has several jobs is a politician and still makes time to train and compete at the high level that is not a lazy person
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Originally posted by hectari View Postyeah once these fighters start making 50 to 100 million that 10 percent **** is out the window, Abel got greedy he saw that GGG would be making 100 million for 3 years and some change and instead of taking 300k per fight or whatever he wanted 10 percent. Dude is straight up greedy, I bet GGG gave him way more than he was making before.
I know that Freddie Roach is the highest paid trainer in boxing thanks to how generous Manny Pacquiao is. I remember Floyd Sr getting jealous of how much Roach got paid he said Manny was overpaying him and not even training him or teaching him crap.
I think it was Koncz who claimed that Roach got paid 5 million or something for the Floyd vs Pac fight, its no wonder Roach never talked crap about Manny when he left, he knew Pacman was his cash cow.
Pacman basically writes down an amount on Paper slides it to Roach and Roach nods his head in agreement and Pac writes the check. I always hear its at least a million, Pac gave Alex Ariza a brand new Maserati and matching rolex, he also paid Ariza over 100k per fight.
Yet Ariza is a piece of **** talking crap on Manny, I never liked Ariza Manny and Roach made him if it werent for Roach giving him a shot to train Pacman Ariza would never be where he is at now.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostHorrible example. Floyd Sr never cornered Oscar in the Floyd fight. And lets not act like that wasn't a unusual situation with Floyd Sr training a fighter against his son & Floyd Sr was asking for & expecting 2M of the 25M+ he knew Oscar was able to get or 8% & Oscar countered with 500k or 2% or 1M or 4% if he won. But again thats a unique situation as I can't remember anyone training a guy vs their son ever let alone in such a high profile fight as that woulda been.
He did however corner Oscar for the Mayorga fight & Oscar made $20M for that fight & if Floyd Sr made $300k thats only 1.5%. You're arguing my point with that example.
Bruh its not cheap is the thing.
Here's Angelo Dundee talking about his SRL deal & how he made $175k for the Hagler fight. SRL made $12M for Hagler. Thats 1.4% for Dundee.
And these types of numbers & fees are all over the place in news articles if you look. GGG isn't out of pocket AT ALL with this. And to be fair Abel isn't out of pocket for expecting the same deal. So neither is at fault for this situation ending. The main thing I, & I suspect most, took issue with his Abel crying in the media.
That's about the level of trainer I would have expected he could get for that price.
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