Stop with the nostalgia, stop overrating fighters from the past!

[AJ's Boy]

It's fine to respect and miss past fighters. But a lot of people automatically pick past fighters over the newest generation of fighters today, which is extremely ****** and disturbing.

Reality is, boxing's just like any other sport, its athletes are constantly evolving and getting better. The fastest runner in the world 20 years ago won't even make the top 10 today. Training, nutrition, genetics, and coaching are constantly improving in every sport.

Prime Cotto is not beating Crawford or Spence. Prime Ali or Holmes is not beating Anthony Joshua, lol. A lot of Ali and Hagler "fans" have never even watched any of their fights in its entirety.

A LOT can change in the sport in just 10 years. The old timers have had their time. We need to embrace the future, appreciate and respect the NOW. Active fighters today like Crawford, Spence, Canelo, and Joshua are the best there has ever been.

[Longhaul]

It's fine to respect and miss past fighters. But a lot of people automatically pick past fighters over the newest generation of fighters today, which is extremely ****** and disturbing.

Reality is, boxing's just like any other sport, its athletes are constantly evolving and getting better. The fastest runner in the world 20 years ago won't even make the top 10 today. Training, nutrition, genetics, and coaching are constantly improving in every sport.

Prime Cotto is not beating Crawford or Spence. Prime Ali or Holmes is not beating Anthony Joshua, lol. A lot of Ali and Hagler "fans" have never even watched any of their fights in its entirety.

A LOT can change in the sport in just 10 years. The old timers have had their time. We need to embrace the future, appreciate and respect the NOW. Active fighters today like Crawford, Spence, Canelo, and Joshua are the best there has ever been.

I remember a conversation Max Kellerman was having concerning His love of Holyfield and discussion of a fantasy fight of Holmes vs holly where he gave your same logic about Evanders hi tech training the duvas had him doing never dreaming Larry would upset the gold medalist heavyweight and get the fight with Evander.He went the distance and lost convincingly but gave the real deal some trouble including cutting him as a old man that didn’t belong in the ring.Imagine if he was twenty eight that night.Same thing when Foreman came back.If you have talent in any era and can fight 15 hard rounds not 12 it doesn’t matter what your old school training is as long as you can fight

[EasternEuroFan]

It's fine to respect and miss past fighters. But a lot of people automatically pick past fighters over the newest generation of fighters today, which is extremely ****** and disturbing.

Reality is, boxing's just like any other sport, its athletes are constantly evolving and getting better. The fastest runner in the world 20 years ago won't even make the top 10 today. Training, nutrition, genetics, and coaching are constantly improving in every sport.

Prime Cotto is not beating Crawford or Spence. Prime Ali or Holmes is not beating Anthony Joshua, lol. A lot of Ali and Hagler "fans" have never even watched any of their fights in its entirety.

A LOT can change in the sport in just 10 years. The old timers have had their time. We need to embrace the future, appreciate and respect the NOW. Active fighters today like Crawford, Spence, Canelo, and Joshua are the best there has ever been.

I think you make a good point.

If you consider sports with a definitive measurement or time system, then we know for sure athletes just get better and better over time. Faster, stronger etc..It would be naive to think boxing is not similar. Boxing is based on opinion really, so there's no definitive measurement to show that they are better than the past.

We can watch a video of Sugar Ray Leonard and he will look great but it's all relative to the opposition too. It's like watching a Carl Lewis 100m race. If you watch it in it's own context, he seems incredible, however we know for sure that his times mean he would get smoked in todays 100m fields and it can't even be debated because the times are factual.

Boxing can't do that, so we will never know, but i can't see why boxing would be different. Humans/Athletes are just more advanced now.

[Robbie Barrett]

In reality there's far less talent nowadays and they are far less conditioned. Just look at the HW division. You have one of the least skilled fighters to ever hold a world title.

[NachoMan]

It's fine to respect and miss past fighters. But a lot of people automatically pick past fighters over the newest generation of fighters today, which is extremely ****** and disturbing.

Reality is, boxing's just like any other sport, its athletes are constantly evolving and getting better. The fastest runner in the world 20 years ago won't even make the top 10 today. Training, nutrition, genetics, and coaching are constantly improving in every sport.

Prime Cotto is not beating Crawford or Spence. Prime Ali or Holmes is not beating Anthony Joshua, lol. A lot of Ali and Hagler "fans" have never even watched any of their fights in its entirety.

A LOT can change in the sport in just 10 years. The old timers have had their time. We need to embrace the future, appreciate and respect the NOW. Active fighters today like Crawford, Spence, Canelo, and Joshua are the best there has ever been.

Damn, I thought you were talking about old "old school" fighters versus today's fighters. Like Spence vs LaMotta or maybe Crawford versus SRL, but you're calling Cotto an old school guy. That's nuts. Prime Cotto beats the **** out of Spence, but he does lose a very good match against Bud. I don't think you're going to get many people agreeing with your thoughts unless you are comparing today's fighters to fighters from the 19th century.

[lopetego]

Yeah, stop worshipping dinosaurs from the past

they were great for their time, but would be chumps today

boxing is the only sport where fanboys claim that some small ass, crude fighter from 1920 could still beat the top of his division today. It's ******ed. *points at Dempsey fans*

[Eff Pandas]

The whole past vs current fighters is scifi fantasy super dork highly speculative sh^t anyway so who f#cking really cares?

I'm sure past fighters had a certain toughness to them & other advantages that todays fighters will never come close to reaching as a whole. I'm sure today's fighters have the best science & knowledge has given us as a species to advance themselves as athletes & other advantages that past fighters never came close to reaching as a whole.

Thing is the personal, mental, strategy & specific physical limitations in any one speculative fight makes breaking this down fighter by fighter a silly topic while I'd agree with the overall assessment that todays fighters overall are better than yesterdays fighters overall so Canelo or Joshua may or may not be the best ever as you are suggesting, but I tend to bet against them beating every fighter in some scifi fantasy super dork highly speculative tournament of the all fighters from history simply cuz they exist today in the present.

[Madison Boxing]

Yeah i didnt get why people were making out cotto would destroy crawford in that other thread. Was he ever that good? Most times i tuned in to watch him he lost badly.

[NachoMan]

Yeah, stop worshipping dinosaurs from the past

they were great for their time, but would be chumps today

boxing is the only sport where fanboys claim that some small ass, crude fighter from 1920 could still beat the top of his division today. It's ******ed. *points at Dempsey fans*

You're talking smack about the old time greats while having a gif of fu.cking Kovalev posted in your sig.

Fighters a good while back were in tremendous shape. Just to be a champion, for starters, you needed to have the endurance to go 15 rounds. Lots of those guys would be giddy to be fighting 10 and 12 round fights.

[Madison Boxing]

Damn, I thought you were talking about old "old school" fighters versus today's fighters. Like Spence vs LaMotta or maybe Crawford versus SRL, but you're calling Cotto an old school guy. That's nuts. Prime Cotto beats the **** out of Spence, but he does lose a very good match against Bud. I don't think you're going to get many people agreeing with your thoughts unless you are comparing today's fighters to fighters from the 19th century.

How would cotto beat the **** out of spence when margarito made him quit? He had lots of other losses and poor performances too but let me guess he was 'past prime' lol