What do you think Haymon thinks of DAZN?

[Scipio2009]

Who said anything about Broner getting 100m dollars for 3 fights? Am starting to question your reading comprehension. Charlo is a promotional free agent, Broner is also. I would not be surprised if DAZN goes after those two. Charlo I wouldn’t be surprised if he is interested due to DAZN locking down the MW side of things, hence why BJS is moving to 168.

Broner is also a free promotional agent, he can fight anyone from 140 to 147, am sure he too would be interested when he sees what others are getting... Phuck even Mayweather might be interested at this rate.

This is why I mentioned those two. Charlo cannot command anything more that what Wilder would get at DAZN, nor would Broner.

It's going to take significantly beyond what can be had with Showtime/FOX/FS1 for any of Haymon's clients to make the jump.

With already $700m basically tied to the 6 big names currently looking at DAZN, getting anyone else isn't going to come cheap, especially with Haymon minding the money.

Charlo has the WBC belt coming his way (via vacancy or title shot) and is set to see 25% if he ends up fighting Canelo. What's going to be the offer to get Charlo and his camp to not bother with the bid (when he already has a world title or $12m-$15m coming to him)? 4 fights, $20m per fight likely gets close.

Broner is an attraction still; get him whatever.

Still, in relatively short order, DAZN has 8 fighters locked in and is easily at $800m in committed money to fighters.

At $10 a month, you'd need 80,000,000 months to cover just those 8 (that's basically 6.7m people paying for the year, or something like 1.7m people per year paying for the year during Canelo's entire run on DAZN).

Getting that level of adoption is asking allot.

[sunny31]

It's going to take significantly beyond what can be had with Showtime/FOX/FS1 for any of Haymon's clients to make the jump.

With already $700m basically tied to the 6 big names currently looking at DAZN, getting anyone else isn't going to come cheap, especially with Haymon minding the money.

Charlo has the WBC belt coming his way (via vacancy or title shot) and is set to see 25% if he ends up fighting Canelo. What's going to be the offer to get Charlo and his camp to not bother with the bid (when he already has a world title or $12m-$15m coming to him)? 4 fights, $20m per fight likely gets close.

Broner is an attraction still; get him whatever.

Still, in relatively short order, DAZN has 8 fighters locked in and is easily at $800m in committed money to fighters.

At $10 a month, you'd need 80,000,000 months to cover just those 8 (that's basically 6.7m people paying for the year, or something like 1.7m people per year paying for the year during Canelo's entire run on DAZN).

Getting that level of adoption is asking allot.

You're basically an idiot. You complicate, uncomplicated numbers. Their target is probably to get to 3 million subscribers in the US in the medium/long term which is $30 million a month and $360 million a year, in other words...problems over.

To put this into perspective, there are over 50 million Netflix subscribers in the US.

DAZN have strong subscriber numbers in Japan, Italy, etc as well.

Everyone always thinks those fight contracts that are quoted are set in stone when in reality they are headline numbers and there are a lot of caveats, terms, conditions, break clauses, etc.

You thinking that they are locked in for 700-800 million is naive at best, you are making a lot of assumptions. It's the subscriber base that is important here, and if you actually research DAZN as a company, their parent company, and the conglomerate behind them, you will realise that they aren't going anywhere.

[Mammoth]

Now if DAZN decides that it wants to sign the PBC to a long term deal then it would definitely be a game changer. That would put Showtime out of business.

The same PBC who has deals with FOX and Showtime? Doesn't seem possible.

[New England]

he probably realizes he's an idiot for investing almost entirely in a dying model, television. i'd imagine he's shaking in his boots. beat them or join them. FFS the guy bought TV time, imagine how dumb he feels in 2019? who the f#ck watches TV?


he can get a few cracks at the big itme, AKA 80-100 dollar pay per views that sell a million plus buys, but those days are numbered.

[Curt Henning]

he probably realizes he's an idiot for investing almost entirely in a dying model, television. i'd imagine he's shaking in his boots. beat them or join them. FFS the guy bought TV time, imagine how dumb he feels in 2019? who the f#ck watches TV?


he can get a few cracks at the big itme, AKA 80-100 dollar pay per views that sell a million plus buys, but those days are numbered.

people still watch tv man...that's why those dorks from big **** theory made money hand over fist...where you think most people watch nfl games? at home.....if I have to listen to one more person talk about those ****** friggin singing shows like the voice I'm gonna lose my **** lol

I know, I know....a lot of people don't...but a lot of people still do

fox and showtime are still strong

getting spence shown on the cowboys sideline on thanksgiving day, like what happened last year, on CBS is still good pub

haymon isn't going anywhere...neither is cbs/showtime...or fox

when haymon re-invested the app model wasn't new to the world

[bballchump11]

he probably realizes he's an idiot for investing almost entirely in a dying model, television. i'd imagine he's shaking in his boots. beat them or join them. FFS the guy bought TV time, imagine how dumb he feels in 2019? who the f#ck watches TV?


he can get a few cracks at the big itme, AKA 80-100 dollar pay per views that sell a million plus buys, but those days are numbered.

Showtime App has more subscribers than DAZN and ESPN+

[boliodogs]

They are very strong competition so he probably hates them and wishes they did not exist.

[Scipio2009]

You're basically an idiot. You complicate, uncomplicated numbers. Their target is probably to get to 3 million subscribers in the US in the medium/long term which is $30 million a month and $360 million a year, in other words...problems over.

To put this into perspective, there are over 50 million Netflix subscribers in the US.

DAZN have strong subscriber numbers in Japan, Italy, etc as well.

Everyone always thinks those fight contracts that are quoted are set in stone when in reality they are headline numbers and there are a lot of caveats, terms, conditions, break clauses, etc.

You thinking that they are locked in for 700-800 million is naive at best, you are making a lot of assumptions. It's the subscriber base that is important here, and if you actually research DAZN as a company, their parent company, and the conglomerate behind them, you will realise that they aren't going anywhere.

DAZN has been live in Austria/Germany/Switzerland/Japan for near three years at this point.

How many subscribers do you honestly guess that DAZN has over those 4 markets?

Showtime has been pushing their standalone app with the weight of Floyd/CBS for at least the last 4 years, and are only now approaching 4m dedicated users.

ESPN put the full weight of their operation behind ESPN+, still took a while to get to 1m users, and have only recently crossed over 2m users.

The WWE Network has been a thing for five years at this point, and even after giving away 5 WrestleManias, they're still only just above 2m dedicated users.

Just imagine how much money Netflix had to spend to build a business that rented a billion DVDs, starting their streaming service, and converting the first three million dedicated users.

How much marketing money could you imagine that DAZN would need to spend to get to even 1m users, lol?

To cover just what was set to be their boxing offering, nevermind anything else, DAZN basically needs to take $10 over 70m times, lol.

We'll see how they do with that, lol