Comments Thread For: Jacobs: I Beat GGG, Canelo Never Faced Anyone With My Skills

[Curtis Harper]

Kell is a good bit bigger than Khan. Khan is maybe a natural 140 guy and Kell looks a good two weight classes bigger. Stopping him is more impressive than stopping Khan who always had chin issues.

When guys step into the ring, they are who they weigh at that moment. Yes, I feel Kell is much better than Khan head to head. Comp wise........

[Boxing_1013]

When guys step into the ring, they are who they weigh at that moment. Yes, I feel Kell is much better than Khan head to head. Comp wise........

I'm not even sure what the original discussion you were having was about... but yeah Khan definitely has better wins than Brook. He actually has a pretty good resume lol. His good wins were just almost all at 140 and he even had serious chin issues facing guys at 140.

I don't know what either Khan or Brook has left right now but I think we see that Khan wants to drag Brook down in weight and probably feels that's his only real shot to win. So yeah I would agree that if they just fought right now in neutral conditions Brook would probably maul/maybe stop Khan. And in their primes Brook would probably always be too big.

Re Khan/Kell and their Canelo/GGG fights, I do think a smaller guy going up in weight always has a chance style wise to beat the bigger guy. He just has to be able to box and move and then has to be able to take the punch when it inevitably comes. Hell that is honestly what Jacobs and Canelo (in the first fight) did with some success against GGG....box/move, pick spots, don't directly engage.

Kell could do all that he just on that night couldn't or didn't box and move as much as he should have. Khan could box and move but was never going to be able to take the punch when it came so match-up wise I just feel Khan really had no shot against Canelo.

[Curtis Harper]

I'm not even sure what the original discussion you were having was about... but yeah Khan definitely has better wins than Brook. He actually has a pretty good resume lol. His good wins were just almost all at 140 and he even had serious chin issues facing guys at 140.

I don't know what either Khan or Brook has left right now but I think we see that Khan wants to drag Brook down in weight and probably feels that's his only real shot to win. So yeah I would agree that if they just fought right now in neutral conditions Brook would probably maul/maybe stop Khan. And in their primes Brook would probably always be too big.

Re Khan/Kell and their Canelo/GGG fights, I do think a smaller guy going up in weight always has a chance style wise to beat the bigger guy. He just has to be able to box and move and then has to be able to take the punch when it inevitably comes. Hell that is honestly what Jacobs and Canelo (in the first fight) did with some success against GGG....box/move, pick spots, don't directly engage.

Kell could do all that he just couldn't or didn't box and move as much as he should have. Khan could box and move but was never going to be able to take the punch when it came so match-up wise I just feel Khan really had no shot against Canelo.

Duran, May, Pac, Hearns and many others have moved up. When they moved up, they were no longer whatever weight they used to be. It's not as if me is fighting a ww in the ring. Perhaps the lighter weight is the best version, but for THAT FIGHT, there are 2 guys of basically the same weight.

GGG's win over Brook
or
Nelo's win over Khan

Which is more hail worthy.......Brook is the better fighter with a less impressive resume. They both had moments vs the naturally bigger guy.

More so Brook, imho. Khan pot shot Nelo. Nothing too troublesome. Brook landed some nice combos.

I think this was the gist of it

[Truth Serum]

not the same thing at all

that would be failing to make weight

Jacobs CHOSE not to abide by rules that are not stipulated by any of the official sanctioning bodies other than the IBF

how was Golovkin going to deal with Andre Ward if a few pounds of rehydration weight on Jacobs is such a big deal?

Golovkin fought Jacobs under the EXACT same rules he fought every other middleweight before Lemieux

it really is no big deal..... to insinuate that was cheating, is an illogical/inaccurate, and desperate stretch

Ward would laugh if he read that

Ward would laugh at you for th8nking he can make 168... remember after the Lemeiux destruction, Ward distanced himself from GGG for another tune up fight.

I'm gonna show Ward what you said.

[P4Pdunny]

it still counts as a loss

[aboutfkntime]

Ward would laugh at you for th8nking he can make 168... remember after the Lemeiux destruction, Ward distanced himself from GGG for another tune up fight.

I'm gonna show Ward what you said.

"Andre Ward has always fought the best opponents that were available, and that holds true today as well. We want to fight the best and we obviously consider Triple G a formidable opponent. We made an offer to fight Triple G. It was the number one priority on Andre's list."

"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.

"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes [they turned it down], so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes.

"I think you can assume that a fight between Triple G and Andre Ward is a fight that people would love to see. It would be great for HBO. I think, for the most part, everyone was on board - with the exception of Triple G and his camp. How do you respond in 36 minutes with a 'no' - unless you had no intention of fighting Andre Ward.

The only way you respond in 36 minutes is if you had no intention of ever fighting this guy. That's what 36 minutes tells you. Because if they did had a desire to fight Andre, they would have responded with 'thank you for your offer, we're going to discuss this with our fighter and get back to you.'

That's typically how it's done. You don't respond in 36 minutes."

"The split would have been a secondary issue behind making the fight and having a desire in making the fight. If they had responded to the email and said 'listen, let's sit down, let's negotiate and let's see if we can come to terms' - then that's a different story. We didn't have the opportunity to talk a split, we didn't have the opportunity to talk about who was the B or the A-side. We didn't have the opportunity talk about any details. To come out and say who would be the A-side and talk about splits, the reality was - they said 'no' in 36 minutes."

"Right now, Andre Ward is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and they don't want nothing to do with him. I don't care what weight it is, I don't care what city it is, I don't care what country they fight in - they don't want nothing to do with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. That's not on their agenda. They can continue to fight journeymen and protect his record and try to continue to build this invincibility aura that he currently has. The fight with Andre Ward would have bee the fight to prove to people if he's as good as people think."

[TonyGe]

"Andre Ward has always fought the best opponents that were available, and that holds true today as well. We want to fight the best and we obviously consider Triple G a formidable opponent. We made an offer to fight Triple G. It was the number one priority on Andre's list."

"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.

"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes [they turned it down], so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes.

"I think you can assume that a fight between Triple G and Andre Ward is a fight that people would love to see. It would be great for HBO. I think, for the most part, everyone was on board - with the exception of Triple G and his camp. How do you respond in 36 minutes with a 'no' - unless you had no intention of fighting Andre Ward.

The only way you respond in 36 minutes is if you had no intention of ever fighting this guy. That's what 36 minutes tells you. Because if they did had a desire to fight Andre, they would have responded with 'thank you for your offer, we're going to discuss this with our fighter and get back to you.'

That's typically how it's done. You don't respond in 36 minutes."

"The split would have been a secondary issue behind making the fight and having a desire in making the fight. If they had responded to the email and said 'listen, let's sit down, let's negotiate and let's see if we can come to terms' - then that's a different story. We didn't have the opportunity to talk a split, we didn't have the opportunity to talk about who was the B or the A-side. We didn't have the opportunity talk about any details. To come out and say who would be the A-side and talk about splits, the reality was - they said 'no' in 36 minutes."

"Right now, Andre Ward is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and they don't want nothing to do with him. I don't care what weight it is, I don't care what city it is, I don't care what country they fight in - they don't want nothing to do with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. That's not on their agenda. They can continue to fight journeymen and protect his record and try to continue to build this invincibility aura that he currently has. The fight with Andre Ward would have bee the fight to prove to people if he's as good as people think."

So they made an offer to a fighter when he was scheduled to fight another opponent and then lay blame when the offer is turned down. LoL.. I don't believe for one second that they didn't know or suspect he was going to fight Lemieux. What was the proposed purse split?? Where was it going to be held? Who was the proposed lead promoter?

[5000boxing]

GGG and camp were informed that Jacobs skipped day after weigh-in immediately. GGG chose not to hydrate more and Danny chose to forfeit his belt.

It would only be UNFAIR if Danny could skip the weigh-in and retain the belt otherwise it was a tactical decision that did not pay off anyways

Are you going to cry if Canelo chooses to wear NEW shoes and Danny uses an old pair????

Shoes?? Wtf.. stay on topic, pimp. I'm just being honest.. I wanted danny to get full credit.. not skip day of weigh in.. for IBF ten lbs rehydration limit.. I just want everyone to be on the same playing field? So everyone will get Full credit.. ain't no crying u dung beetle! I ride with jacobs.. I lost money too.. but that doesnt mean I should lie about the facts.. because that's what happens

[MEXfistology]

Perfect example. Like I said only people who thought Jacobs won were bias or just don't like GGG. Like this guy, a Mexican.

Not surprising he would have Jacobs winning by 3 rds but you'd have to be totally delusional to think Jacobs won by 3 whole rounds even if u thought u won.

Now let's see if he'll keep that same energy after Canelo goes life and death with Jacobs in a close fight.

I was rooting for ggg all pre fight because canelo was ducking him for 2 years , not only canelo but all the other top middleweights and golovkin couldn't do anything to force them into the ring , so don't presume you know how I feel towards the guy.. and once again, I predicted ggg to stop Jacobs within 5 rounds because Sergio Mora was able to drop and hurt Jacobs and Mora is a pillow fisted boxer , ggg had unreal power..but I call it how I see it, Jacobs outboxed ggg, Mexican commentators said it best "golovkin is considered to have Mexican style but Mexican style is not just coming foward, Mexican style is about throwing punchesss while coming forward", which ggg wasnt doing , because Jacobs knew how to neutralize golivkins power and took it away from him for most of the fight, you can whine and cry all you want , nothing is gonna make me change my perception, I know what I saw ...cheers

[blue_dolphin]

I had him beating Golovkin too. the proof is in the fact ggg never gave this man the rematch. says alot. Canelo will have his hands full here, DJ is the complete package. yes Floyd might have more skills but Canelo was never at risk of being put to sleep. I think DJ has the power to fold Canelo.