Comments Thread For: Jacobs: I Beat GGG, Canelo Never Faced Anyone With My Skills

[Bjl12]

What is your prediction for that one? I think Mikey is KOed in 3 rounds.

I think Mikey goes 4-5 rounds most because he's a smart fighter. He'll be able to spoil the fight by staying too far away or smothering and getting too close.

Nevertheless Errald, who is basically a 154 pounder, is going to slaughter the 135 pound Mikey Garcia

[Boxing_1013]

Khan got off to a fast start and won first couple rounds before Canelo started counter-punching and eventually hurting/KO'ing Khan. Khan just isn't capable of a Plan B..he puts everything he has into Plan A and can't adjust. That's why he was so good in the amateurs..Khan could give any fighter in history - pound for pound - a run for their money in an amateur fight.

Khan only moved up 8 pounds for Canelo, but Khan had been KTFO twice by that point as well as hurt a half dozen more times.

Brook moved up 13 pounds (after Gennady refused to concede 3 pounds) and was undefeated at the time of fight without ever being noticably hurt in a fight.

Brook was a better win, but it was only marginally better as Brook hurt/hit Gennady cleanly throughout their short fight while Canelo dominated Khan from the 3rd round on without taking damage aside from a WW jab.

I hear ya.

In my earlier post I was saying that when a smaller guy moves up in weight he does have a chance to beat the bigger guy. But you have to be able to box and move, and also take the punch when it comes. I think Brook showed he could take the punch, he just couldn't box and move well enough. Maybe it was the wrong gameplan, maybe GGG was too good, maybe Brook wasn't good enough to actually box and move. But I think Brook had the traits to potentially pull off an upset as the smaller man moving up.

I agree 100% about Khan's skills..in a 4 round fight he could beat a lot of guys anywhere around his weight. He could outbox a lot of guys for as long as the fight lasted. I just think him getting KOed was inevitable with that chin, moving up and facing a great boxer and big puncher like Canelo.

Also I don't think the natural size difference between Brook and GGG was as great as it was between Khan and Canelo but that's my opinion. Khan seems like a natural JWW and that's (140) where he did his best work, and Brook a natural JMW. GGG a natural MW and Canelo a natural MW probably.

Brook did have some good moments against GGG. I personally think GGG felt him out early in the first round and then GGG hurt him, and realized Brook seemed nervous and couldn't really hang and decided back it down a little bit, try to put on a little show instead of an early KO. But once he did that Brook had some good success and I think he pissed GGG off and at that point Brook felt comfortable still and still had a couple good moments even after GGG tried to ramp it back up.

But I think that ended up being Brook's undoing because GGG just gave him a lot of punishment in those 5 rounds. Sucks that Brook stepped up and faced GGG and Spence in back to back fights and his career is pretty much seriously derailed thanks to those fights.

[Boxing_1013]

I think Mikey goes 4-5 rounds most because he's a smart fighter. He'll be able to spoil the fight by staying too far away or smothering and getting too close.

Nevertheless Errald, who is basically a 154 pounder, is going to slaughter the 135 pound Mikey Garcia

Yeah that's my general feeling. I just don't think Mikey is big enough at all and I rate Spence really high. I admit I haven't seen a lot of Mikey but I haven't been impressed with his results. I would have liked to see KOs over guys like Salido, Broner, Lipinets and Easter if he was going to really have a chance against Spence.

But it Mikey lasts late in the fight I will be the first to give him credit. If he goes 12 rounds I will put him in my top 10 pfp list.

[Bjl12]

Yeah that's my general feeling. I just don't think Mikey is big enough at all and I rate Spence really high. I admit I haven't seen a lot of Mikey but I haven't been impressed with his results. I would have liked to see KOs over guys like Salido, Broner, Lipinets and Easter if he was going to really have a chance against Spence.

But it Mikey lasts late in the fight I will be the first to give him credit. If he goes 12 rounds I will put him in my top 10 pfp list.

Yeah and as far as your other post goes...Mikey is not a stick-and-move kind of guy. He gets up in your face and lands 1's and 2's with scarce 3's. Mikey's best attribute is timing, but he won't be able to keep Spence off him if his offense is too stagnant

Can't see it going beyond 4-5 rounds.

I find it hilarious FoxPPV wants $75 for this mismatch. And some people will pay it ! XD XD XD

Anyhow I think 100-150k is a good return for this fight

[MONGOOSE66]

Jacobs has NEVER met anyone with Canelos abilities either. I like both fighters. I’ve always thought Jacobs would be a big test for Caneo but that’s said, Jacobs has a bad habit of pausing and NOT WORKING enough, that lack of HUSTLE could be why he looses. He should of whipped GGG far easier than he did.
Canelo should NEVER get past his jab but I bet he does due to lack of hustle.

[aboutfkntime]

From Wards trainer who is well respected..

If the money is right, Hunter feels confident that Ward would be able to get down to 168.

"Of course he can make 168 - if the money is right. He is still a super middleweight," Hunter told TownBizzNizz Sports & Media

Ward refused to move down to make the fight contrary to what his trainer admitted to.


With Ward it was one excuse after the other. He wouldn't agree to 164 when it was proposed. Then he refused to drop back down to 168. He can't fight because he's in litigation. He can't fight because his shoulder is not 100%. The truth is circumstances made this fight unlikely to happen from both sides. When Golovkin was asked about the fight years ago he said there was talk of this happening but it never got to a serious stage.

1) you have previously denied that Ward could make 168

you used the..... Ward was bluffing because he knew that he could not make 168..... excuse

so..... props for smartening up, or getting caught out..... whatever that was

2) 168 is not 164 lol..... so no idea why you mentioned 168, because the discussion is about 164

like I said..... you have insisted that Ward could not make 168 in the past, so making excuses to justify that catchweight demand is super-bltchy, even for you

what happened to all of that " anyone from 154-168 " bullshlt?

have you realized that they lied to you yet ?

if Canelo beats Jacobs, and then Andrade..... how loudly am I going to laugh at you excuse-making muppets?

[aboutfkntime]

What is your prediction for that one? I think Mikey is KOed in 3 rounds.

nope

once again, you leave me with the impression that you have no real feel for this game..... by running with the good ol casual-fan conclusion

I slightly favor Spence

slightly

but he will have his hands full, no question.....

if there is a stoppage, it will be by late breakdown..... not by being blown out..... but it would not surprise me at all if Garcia survived for 12 rounds..... and if he survives, there is a damn good chance that he will get the nod

my bottom line.....

that fight will be a lot closer than people think, I expect a lot of "wow, I am shocked" posts following that fight..... and Garcia could win

[Truth Serum]

"Andre Ward has always fought the best opponents that were available, and that holds true today as well. We want to fight the best and we obviously consider Triple G a formidable opponent. We made an offer to fight Triple G. It was the number one priority on Andre's list."

"We made him an offer, prior quite frankly, to knowing about the fight with Lemieux. But regardless of that fight, the offer was very, very clear - that he and Andre would both have one fight before they fought each other, and they would fight each other sometime in the first half of 2016. So obviously the fight with Lemieux would continue to move forward and the next fight would be Andre in 2016.

"They received the offer and in 36 minutes we got a response which basically stated 'we cannot accept the offer and we're going in a different direction.' In 36 minutes [they turned it down], so that tells me there was not even any consideration given to the offer, because at the end of the day Triple G always knew that he would never fight Andre Ward. He's stated publically, and in writing, that he would go up to 168 to fight anybody but Andre. We put an official offer on the table and we got a 'no' in 36 minutes.

"I think you can assume that a fight between Triple G and Andre Ward is a fight that people would love to see. It would be great for HBO. I think, for the most part, everyone was on board - with the exception of Triple G and his camp. How do you respond in 36 minutes with a 'no' - unless you had no intention of fighting Andre Ward.

The only way you respond in 36 minutes is if you had no intention of ever fighting this guy. That's what 36 minutes tells you. Because if they did had a desire to fight Andre, they would have responded with 'thank you for your offer, we're going to discuss this with our fighter and get back to you.'

That's typically how it's done. You don't respond in 36 minutes."

"The split would have been a secondary issue behind making the fight and having a desire in making the fight. If they had responded to the email and said 'listen, let's sit down, let's negotiate and let's see if we can come to terms' - then that's a different story. We didn't have the opportunity to talk a split, we didn't have the opportunity to talk about who was the B or the A-side. We didn't have the opportunity talk about any details. To come out and say who would be the A-side and talk about splits, the reality was - they said 'no' in 36 minutes."

"Right now, Andre Ward is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world and they don't want nothing to do with him. I don't care what weight it is, I don't care what city it is, I don't care what country they fight in - they don't want nothing to do with the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. That's not on their agenda. They can continue to fight journeymen and protect his record and try to continue to build this invincibility aura that he currently has. The fight with Andre Ward would have bee the fight to prove to people if he's as good as people think."

So GGG should have signed the contract at what weight and what date?

GGG was only interested at unifying and if Ward wanted GGG bad enough he would have came down to 160... I guarantee a prime GGG would have placed a beatdown at 160 vs Ward and got paid peanuts!... but ****** boxing has weight classes for some dumb reason.

[TonyGe]

1) you have previously denied that Ward could make 168

you used the..... Ward was bluffing because he knew that he could not make 168..... excuse

so..... props for smartening up, or getting caught out..... whatever that was

2) 168 is not 164 lol..... so no idea why you mentioned 168, because the discussion is about 164

like I said..... you have insisted that Ward could not make 168 in the past, so making excuses to justify that catchweight demand is super-bltchy, even for you

what happened to all of that " anyone from 154-168 " bullshlt?

have you realized that they lied to you yet ?

if Canelo beats Jacobs, and then Andrade..... how loudly am I going to laugh at you excuse-making muppets?

Yeah I said that Ward can't make 168 until I came across this article where his trainer said he can do it no
problem. So can he make 168 or not??

[Boxing_1013]

Yeah and as far as your other post goes...Mikey is not a stick-and-move kind of guy. He gets up in your face and lands 1's and 2's with scarce 3's. Mikey's best attribute is timing, but he won't be able to keep Spence off him if his offense is too stagnant

Can't see it going beyond 4-5 rounds.

I find it hilarious FoxPPV wants $75 for this mismatch. And some people will pay it ! XD XD XD

Anyhow I think 100-150k is a good return for this fight

Man for Mikey's sake I really hope it does well and that he does well. I appreciate him taking on the challenge and I hope he is in some way rewarded for it.