Comments Thread For: Fury's Dubious Decision & Why Wilder Won't Accept Arum's Offer

[Scipio2009]

I haven’t seen anywhere with 50/50, I have seen 60/40 in favour of the WBC champ but no where is reporting 50/50. You can post that if it’s around.

This very article that you're commenting on states that a 50/50 deal for a SHOPPV event on May 18th was all but done before Top Rank popped up, lol.

You cannot be serious, right?

[Ray*]

Again, it's not an offer with no strings attached.

Even if you want to try and argue that Kevin Idec is full of **** and making the entire story up (which is not his reputation in the slightest), Bob Arum is currently trying to take a straight-away rematch and instead, bind Wilder to delivering him an interim fight on ESPN+ this Spring before a likely PPV fight in the Fall (if Arum thinks its marinated enough by that point) with Wilder on less than 50% of the take, lol.

In the last 20 years, when has Bob Arum delivered a straight-up fight on anything?

Yet, you expect that to change now?

Lol, I don’t know if have issues comprehending what I and most people are saying here or just purposefully ignoring everyone.

Again am saying if Wilder is offered a no string attached offer, with no options and the offer is great then he should take it.

And no he shouldn’t accept any offer that ties him to ESPN unless he wants to.

All the other stuff you are posting is NOT relevant.

[Ray*]

This very article that you're commenting on states that a 50/50 deal for a SHOPPV event on May 18th was all but done before Top Rank popped up, lol.

You cannot be serious, right?

Great, didn’t read this article I have to admit until you pointed it out. 50/50 is a great offer. So Wilder must be super desperate for this fight to happen on showtime then.

[Scipio2009]

Dude you acting like he made 10+ million for the fury fight. His guarantee for the Fury fight was only 4 million. So 4 million to fight a lower caliber fighter is great and very more than reasonable. He’d be ****** not to take an offer like that.

250k PPV buys on the event covered the guarantees on the main event, the undercard purses, and the costs of the event, lol.

Literally everything beyond that was extra money for Wilder and Fury.

[The plunger man]

Bet.

How are we going to make sure that the money actually gets put up? No idea what your history is, but folks here have a habit of not acknowledging, nevermind paying off, bets that they lose.

if that fights takes place in the us with no failed ped tests or no fighter losing to another fighter ...the bet is solid and its paypal if you have it.

[Scipio2009]

if that fights takes place in the us with no failed ped tests or no fighter losing to another fighter ...the bet is solid and its paypal if you have it.

That's modifying the bet though, right?

It's Deontay Wilder vs Anthony Joshua in the US, or did I miss something?

If the fight happens, we have a bet

[The plunger man]

That's modifying the bet though, right?

It's Deontay Wilder vs Anthony Joshua in the US, or did I miss something?

If the fight happens, we have a bet

. No you didnt but if either fighter loses to anybody else that pretty much kills the bet because it could be quite some time before that the actually happens and i an not gonna have the bet hanging over me for say 4 or 5 years and yes if drugs involved it makes no differnce its a void bet ....because peds is peds....so the bet is as lond as no figter loses there next fight and no peds are involved in either fighter joshua vs wilder in the uk for me and joshua vs wilder in the US for you ...£100 straight into the others paypal account

[juggernaut666]

The article says Fury has a 5 fight deal with one fight including Wilder. Wilder is only obligated to fight one prior fight before Fury so no there is no 5 fights for Wilder with the offer in that article.

So again you're not really in touch with reality on here, in fact didn't you do a thread yesterday and got completetly run off it by juggs who exposed you ? Where is that thread , Ha,wait a second

juggernaut666

That dummy R. Walken is just copying and pasting things from his thread he ran off, waste of time another Wildertard.

[Scipio2009]

. No you didnt but if either fighter loses to anybody else that pretty much kills the bet because it could be quite some time before that the actually happens and i an not gonna have the bet hanging over me for say 4 or 5 years and yes if drugs involved it makes no differnce its a void bet ....because peds is peds....so the bet is as lond as no figter loses there next fight and no peds are involved in either fighter joshua vs wilder in the uk for me and joshua vs wilder in the US for you ...£100 straight into the others paypal account

If the fight is in the US, but AJ pisses hot, I've won the bet, correct?

Joshua is fighting Miller next, but then he's got the IBF mandatory with Pulev or Wilder; if the DAZN thing is still an insistence, the fight likely gets pushed off another 16 months from then (IBF mandatory, WBO mandatory, WBA mandatory will all be due soon/already due).

Just locking down the details.

[Jax teller]

1) Ortiz for one. Ortiz is fighting in two weeks. Ortiz said he can fight every other week if need be and open to fighting anybody, so that leaves 3mo. What was stopping AJ from doing Ortiz fight instead of Miller? Nothing. Miller easier fight.
2) AJ himself said there was a rematch clause if Whyte won the rematch. Right? Why dint they force a rematch Clause for Miller? Cuz there not worried about Miller winning are they? There worried about Whyte winning. So they forced a 50% 50% split if he wins cuz there greedy, not if he loses. Champ gets 60% 40% spilt. So not a fair contract is it? Also I was pointing out how Wilder has stepped up his competition over his last couple of fights because you or someone pointed out that Wilder needs to step it up and not have AJ do all the work (lol) i.e. being Critical of Wilder after he fought Ortiz and Fury back to back. So I made the point. Now your twisting it up saying I'm being critical of AJ cuz I made the point. I never said AJ hasn't fought a top #3 fighter did I? Please, If you feel Miller is the best choice your entitled to your opinion. At least you bring a thought out argument to the table even if it has a few holes in it.

Are you being deliberately ******?

AJ has a rematch clause with everyone he fights that will include Miller, standard procedure for voluntary defences have you just started following boxing?

Ortiz has a fight he could loose and leave AJ with no partner and opened his mouth up after Miller was as good as done. He may also not want to accept what he is offered so don't pretend the deal can definitely get made as a lot of people seem to want there final big payday against AJ and price themselves out.
Miller by the way will help sell the fight due to the fact they he can speak English and has a personality. If you can't see Miller makes more business sense you have an agenda.

Miller fight = better business, easier fight to make as well

Ortiz fight = stiffer competition if you believe his hype but may not even make it to AJ fight.

You're dumb if you think AJ is afraid of fighting a 40 year old Ortiz who's never done anything bit get knocked against Wilder as his career highlight, when AJ fought and defeated Klitschko after 18 fights who's credentials go without saying.