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Would boxing gain a lot more fans if it did away with three judges deciding outcomes?

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    Would boxing gain a lot more fans if it did away with three judges deciding outcomes?

    I can't help but think if boxing did away with judges, it would be FAR more popular than it is.

    When I was a young boy that was supposed to be in bed for school but stayed up super late, I was absolutely shocked when the first Holyfield-Lewis fight was ruled a draw. I couldn't believe it. Lewis couldn't believe it either when he stood in the middle of the ring with a look of total confusion. Hell, even Holyfield looked like he it shouldn't have been a draw.

    Can't forget Mayweather and Castillo first fight. Although not as one sided of a beating as the lewis holyfield fight, but still pretty clear on who the winner was.

    And now here we are back to the same bs nearly 20 years later.... GGG clearly won the first fight, but the judges ruled it a draw????

    And those are just the big fights I mentioned. I can't help but wonder how many of the lower tier bouts where up and coming fighters got robbed.

    How in the hell is boxing as a whole supposed to retain/gain fans if it all comes down to what three judges think?

    #2
    What is the solution though?

    Media scores are more reliable than Judges scorecards but we can't change the method man.

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      #3
      lil g got his ass whooped. stop crying

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        #4
        Nope, things brought into boxing to help make it more appealing to the mainstream audience ought not be dropped for the appeal of the mainstream audience. Seems pretty obvious.

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          #5
          Originally posted by HitmanTommy View Post
          I can't help but think if boxing did away with judges, it would be FAR more popular than it is.

          When I was a young boy that was supposed to be in bed for school but stayed up super late, I was absolutely shocked when the first Holyfield-Lewis fight was ruled a draw. I couldn't believe it. Lewis couldn't believe it either when he stood in the middle of the ring with a look of total confusion. Hell, even Holyfield looked like he it shouldn't have been a draw.

          Can't forget Mayweather and Castillo first fight. Although not as one sided of a beating as the lewis holyfield fight, but still pretty clear on who the winner was.

          And now here we are back to the same bs nearly 20 years later.... GGG clearly won the first fight, but the judges ruled it a draw????

          And those are just the big fights I mentioned. I can't help but wonder how many of the lower tier bouts where up and coming fighters got robbed.

          How in the hell is boxing as a whole supposed to retain/gain fans if it all comes down to what three judges think?
          There was an article about judging where the author explained in his opinion what happened in the Holyfield Lewis fight. Basically Holyfield was handled by Don King. Don had the WBC in his pocket. Both agreed that Holyfield was more marketable and popular so a deal was done. Sounds possible.

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            #6
            Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
            What is the solution though?

            Media scores are more reliable than Judges scorecards but we can't change the method man.
            Well something needs to change.

            Eugenia Williams scoring the fight 115-113 for Holyfield??????????
            Larry O'Connell scoring the fight 115-115????????????

            Adalaide Byrd 118-110 Canelo????????????????????????????????????????


            Absolutely disgraceful.
            Last edited by HitmanTommy; 02-09-2019, 12:18 PM.

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              #7
              increase 3 to 5 judges, making it harder to arrange these bad decisions, now its just too easy

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                #8
                As Duck said you need some sorta solution doe. It'd be worse if after the 12th round they just ended the show. No one had a record & no one had a title lol.

                I think they need 2 things to happen to fix the current system. I think they need to more clearly define what wins a round which looking at most state rulebooks is open to interpretation far too much & they need to hold judges more accountable for their actions up to & including giving the media access to them so we can better weed out the bad judges or get them on the right path if they are fixable.

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                  #9
                  I think there should be 5 judges in world title fights.

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                    #10
                    You can't change human nature, where money is at stake corruption is bound to follow - If there are no judges it would be a corrupt ref. If it was a computer that decided a winner then the computer would be manipulated to give the desired result.

                    Just make it a bare-knuckle fight to the death so noone can hide plaster in their gloves. Even then one guy might have titanium implants in his hands or face, and a guy might be on drugs and get away with it (Jon Jones is still allowed to compete even with drugs in his system)

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