Originally posted by sterilizer
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Hats off to Wilder, he gained my respect last night.
WARNING: This comment will be HIGHLY, SUPER-UNUSUALLY RARE TO READ, for whomever takes a little time to do it. I'll explain.
Unlike 99.999% of people who follow boxing or any other sport, I HEREBY ADMIT THAT I AM AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BIASED IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE OF MY OWN RACE.
I am a white Caucasian female, and I AM NOT AMERICAN and won't say my nationality because that will just affect me, people here will think that, in addition to rooting for white Caucasian fighters, I also root for people of my country.
Also, I'll have to admit that, being an English speaker and having lots of family in the US, I've lived for years and years in that country. And I've experienced harassment and uncalled-for insults and aggressions from African American people most frequently JUST BECAUSE OF MY SKIN COLOR, specially when walking in downtown, or using public transportation. That's why, I ADMIT IT AS WELL, I HAVE A BIAS AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICAN BOXERS IN GENERAL, most specially the loud-mouthed ones, ******-type ones that remind me of the African American people who used to harass me in the US (both female AND male), as I said before, FOR NO JUSTIFIED REASON OTHER THAN MY SKIN COLOR.
Now, having mentioned all that which as I mentioned I'm sure it has never been mentioned in a comment section over here before, I'll talk about the fight, which I watched in its entirety, very carefully last night, and as I mentioned, where Wilder TOTALLY GAINED MY RESPECT.
I did not do a round by round account of who won each round. Because doing that IMHO spoils the fun of watching the fight. I just quickly did some math in my mind after the end, in fact I DIDN'T EVEN WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE JUDGES DICTATED, I stopped watching the event right after the 12th round ended, and found out about the result JUST NOW, OVER HERE.
This is what I thought, I swear to God:
1) Fury is a jackass, yes he was the better boxer, no doubt about it, but he clowned too much, didn't attack enough and was dropped like a sack of potatoes by a much smaller guy, twice.
2) In spite of the above, and again, I DID NOT GO ROUND BY ROUND, JUST QUICKLY DID THE MATH IN MY HEAD, I thought:
Fury won 7 or 8 rounds, despite the two knock downs.
a) If it was 8, that means he got 116 points, vs. Wilder, 112+2 for the two knockdowns = Fury wins UNDESERVINGLY, 116-114. I also thought NO WAY IN HELL WILL THIS HAPPEN IN THE US, NO WAY! The alien boxer will NEVER EVER dethrone a current US champion on US soil. So I thought THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN, PERIOD.
b) If it was 7, that means he got 115 points, while Wilder gets 113+2 for the knockdowns, which makes it a 115-115 DRAW. And I thought to myself: That useless ass.hole Fury DOES NOT DESERVE EVEN THE DRAW, but honestly, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAW, as the fair result.
So I used to naturally super-despise Wilder because of his depressing ******-like speech patterns, behavior, lack of manners and attitude, which reminds me a lot of my experiences living in the US, and I AM NOT GENERALIZING AT ALL, I've met lots of educated, nice, polite, totally unbiased and non-racist African Americans. But sadly, I am yet to know about one of these in boxing, which happens to be my favorite sport God knows why, because I am a very feminine person, don't like violence and I don't even fight myself --only in self-defense, you punch me I immediately punch back--. So I am not a fan of African American boxers in general, due to their attitude, because I have no problem with black people of other nationalities (exept perhaps Cubans, due to their style of fighting mostly, which is in more than 90% of the cases, suoer-boring and defensive).
Bottom line and to finally end this litany, I HAVE RESPECT FOR WILDER NOW. He may talk and act ******, BUT IN THE RING HE IS A COMPLETE PRO, he is 100% serious, he is IN BUSINESS even in front of a much bigger (and very gifted nonetheless) clown. He went there to try and get a KO victory, NO SHENANIGANS NO TRICKS NO CHEATING NO GARBAGE --No Floyd Mayweather Jr. cowardly sissy garbage behaviour like running away and pot-shotting for rounds, pushing and elbowing illegally, and most of all clinching 1,000 times, never ever getting even a warning, how many times did he hug Manny in their fight, the first few rounds, 40, 50, 60 times? AND BY THE SAME TOKEN no Andre Ward freebie "win" by one point in the 1st Kovalev meeting, and, the cherry on the cake, no incredibly fraudulent robbery "win" in their 2nd meeting, where I easily counted 10+ blatant low blows that the sold-out referee never ever even pretended to see. That was the robbery of the century. THAT GRANTED A DISQUALIFICATION for Ward, and an automatic win by Kovalev, yet instead, the sold-out referee and judges pretended it was a knock out, after a flurry of 6+ blatant low blows, plus all the ones he connected in previous rounds, which of course totally debilitated Kovalev???
In light of all the stuff explained before, about those two individuals who are considered "greats" in the sport by Americans, but many if not most of us see them as cheaters and tricksters, OF COURSE I HAD A BIAS AGAINST WILDER, not to mention his personality, as explained before, when watching him in interviews or face-offs.
AGAIN, HATS-OFF TO DEONTAY. Even being an African-American, HE HAS MY TOTAL RESPECT NOW. I will just avoid watching him TALK, and just focus on watching him FIGHT. Because he is a bona fide fighter (and I really, really hope he does not ever change this for the worse, as he gets older), not a cheating trickster like Mayweather jr. and Ward. HE IS FOR REAL, and if he beats Joshua and he retires undefeated, I will be pleased, because he will deserve it. He had a very difficult and very, very gifted fighter in front of him last night, weighing over 40 pounds more than him, and yet HE NEVER USED TRICKS, CHEATING, TRICKERY AND HE ALWAYS MANTAINED HIS COMPOSURE, FOCUS AND PROFESSIONALISM.
A bow to Deontay and best wishes in the future!
WARNING: This comment will be HIGHLY, SUPER-UNUSUALLY RARE TO READ, for whomever takes a little time to do it. I'll explain.
Unlike 99.999% of people who follow boxing or any other sport, I HEREBY ADMIT THAT I AM AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BIASED IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE OF MY OWN RACE.
I am a white Caucasian female, and I AM NOT AMERICAN and won't say my nationality because that will just affect me, people here will think that, in addition to rooting for white Caucasian fighters, I also root for people of my country.
Also, I'll have to admit that, being an English speaker and having lots of family in the US, I've lived for years and years in that country. And I've experienced harassment and uncalled-for insults and aggressions from African American people most frequently JUST BECAUSE OF MY SKIN COLOR, specially when walking in downtown, or using public transportation. That's why, I ADMIT IT AS WELL, I HAVE A BIAS AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICAN BOXERS IN GENERAL, most specially the loud-mouthed ones, ******-type ones that remind me of the African American people who used to harass me in the US (both female AND male), as I said before, FOR NO JUSTIFIED REASON OTHER THAN MY SKIN COLOR.
Now, having mentioned all that which as I mentioned I'm sure it has never been mentioned in a comment section over here before, I'll talk about the fight, which I watched in its entirety, very carefully last night, and as I mentioned, where Wilder TOTALLY GAINED MY RESPECT.
I did not do a round by round account of who won each round. Because doing that IMHO spoils the fun of watching the fight. I just quickly did some math in my mind after the end, in fact I DIDN'T EVEN WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE JUDGES DICTATED, I stopped watching the event right after the 12th round ended, and found out about the result JUST NOW, OVER HERE.
This is what I thought, I swear to God:
1) Fury is a jackass, yes he was the better boxer, no doubt about it, but he clowned too much, didn't attack enough and was dropped like a sack of potatoes by a much smaller guy, twice.
2) In spite of the above, and again, I DID NOT GO ROUND BY ROUND, JUST QUICKLY DID THE MATH IN MY HEAD, I thought:
Fury won 7 or 8 rounds, despite the two knock downs.
a) If it was 8, that means he got 116 points, vs. Wilder, 112+2 for the two knockdowns = Fury wins UNDESERVINGLY, 116-114. I also thought NO WAY IN HELL WILL THIS HAPPEN IN THE US, NO WAY! The alien boxer will NEVER EVER dethrone a current US champion on US soil. So I thought THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN, PERIOD.
b) If it was 7, that means he got 115 points, while Wilder gets 113+2 for the knockdowns, which makes it a 115-115 DRAW. And I thought to myself: That useless ass.hole Fury DOES NOT DESERVE EVEN THE DRAW, but honestly, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAW, as the fair result.
So I used to naturally super-despise Wilder because of his depressing ******-like speech patterns, behavior, lack of manners and attitude, which reminds me a lot of my experiences living in the US, and I AM NOT GENERALIZING AT ALL, I've met lots of educated, nice, polite, totally unbiased and non-racist African Americans. But sadly, I am yet to know about one of these in boxing, which happens to be my favorite sport God knows why, because I am a very feminine person, don't like violence and I don't even fight myself --only in self-defense, you punch me I immediately punch back--. So I am not a fan of African American boxers in general, due to their attitude, because I have no problem with black people of other nationalities (exept perhaps Cubans, due to their style of fighting mostly, which is in more than 90% of the cases, suoer-boring and defensive).
Bottom line and to finally end this litany, I HAVE RESPECT FOR WILDER NOW. He may talk and act ******, BUT IN THE RING HE IS A COMPLETE PRO, he is 100% serious, he is IN BUSINESS even in front of a much bigger (and very gifted nonetheless) clown. He went there to try and get a KO victory, NO SHENANIGANS NO TRICKS NO CHEATING NO GARBAGE --No Floyd Mayweather Jr. cowardly sissy garbage behaviour like running away and pot-shotting for rounds, pushing and elbowing illegally, and most of all clinching 1,000 times, never ever getting even a warning, how many times did he hug Manny in their fight, the first few rounds, 40, 50, 60 times? AND BY THE SAME TOKEN no Andre Ward freebie "win" by one point in the 1st Kovalev meeting, and, the cherry on the cake, no incredibly fraudulent robbery "win" in their 2nd meeting, where I easily counted 10+ blatant low blows that the sold-out referee never ever even pretended to see. That was the robbery of the century. THAT GRANTED A DISQUALIFICATION for Ward, and an automatic win by Kovalev, yet instead, the sold-out referee and judges pretended it was a knock out, after a flurry of 6+ blatant low blows, plus all the ones he connected in previous rounds, which of course totally debilitated Kovalev???
In light of all the stuff explained before, about those two individuals who are considered "greats" in the sport by Americans, but many if not most of us see them as cheaters and tricksters, OF COURSE I HAD A BIAS AGAINST WILDER, not to mention his personality, as explained before, when watching him in interviews or face-offs.
AGAIN, HATS-OFF TO DEONTAY. Even being an African-American, HE HAS MY TOTAL RESPECT NOW. I will just avoid watching him TALK, and just focus on watching him FIGHT. Because he is a bona fide fighter (and I really, really hope he does not ever change this for the worse, as he gets older), not a cheating trickster like Mayweather jr. and Ward. HE IS FOR REAL, and if he beats Joshua and he retires undefeated, I will be pleased, because he will deserve it. He had a very difficult and very, very gifted fighter in front of him last night, weighing over 40 pounds more than him, and yet HE NEVER USED TRICKS, CHEATING, TRICKERY AND HE ALWAYS MANTAINED HIS COMPOSURE, FOCUS AND PROFESSIONALISM.
A bow to Deontay and best wishes in the future!
I too cheer for white fighters, mainly its because they pound other peoples heads in. Boxing is full of scum and villainy.
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