Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Would've Accepted $50M Offer If Not For Hearn

[Holler]

Tyson Fury would be making the trip to the US, with the split likely being 60/40 Wilder.

Fury and Wilder will get to talking, MGM Resorts will still likely host the fight (likely at MGM Grand instead of T-Mobile, but the site fee will carry the day), Showtime would still put the fight on PPV, and BoxNation would carry the fight at 2am.

The way Fury has looked will for sure stop it from being an even $50m fight, but Wilder basically gets what he would've gotten for Joshua in the UK with $30m cleared for the fighters ($5m-$7m from the live event, $3m-$5m from the UK TV, sponsors and miscellaneous revenue streams, and 350k-400k PPV homes in the US).

What kind of profile does Fury have in the US that would suggest those figures are attainable?

[Scipio2009]

What kind of profile does Fury have in the US that would suggest those figures are attainable?

Wilder was able to draw what he drew for the Ortiz fight competing against an HBO card (unsure of the number there) and a UFC PPV (where Dana White was seen watching the Wilder fight on the app in that building).

Wilder's profile is strong enough, and their initial confrontation drew monster interest in the US, tbf.

The only real bar is convincing the public that Fuey is fit enough to make it a competitive fight (very few people actually sat down and saw the Klitschko-Fury fight, but the passage of time let the **** fight fade away and let folks only remember that Fury beat Klitschko).

Wilder fought in March, and will likely fight in October/November if the Joshua fight officially dies. Fury fought in June, is set to fight again in August, and could likely get a live body to fight before the end of the year.

If Fury can show enough to make it a fight, the hype begins and you can stage Wilder-Fury in March/April.

[Rubber Ducky]

Lol Wilder is comedy gold. He thinks all this bluster and jibber jabber makes it seem like he's been ducked but it only reinforces the idea he's going over board on trying to prove he didn't duck the fight.

Joshua in comparison hasn't said a peep, just gone about business as usual. One of them if a real life warrior the other is a twitter/keyboard warrior.

[P4Pdunny]

Except it's not though. The Klitschko fight was a good one, but let's look at the rest of the ledger: Molina, Breazeale, Takam, Parker, maybe Dillian Whyte (the fact that he's already ducked Luis Ortiz and swerved Kubrat Pulev let's it be known where his camp thinks his current level is).

Wilder has Stiverne and Ortiz as his best fights, and then has a slate of top 50 heavyweight fights under that

I think you'll find that it is. I'm not one of Wilder's bathwater drinkers or AJ's so I'm speaking objectively. Whatever you may think about the other fighters AJ has fought the more stern competition. We know Martin was garbage but he was a 23-0 title holder and AJ took a calculated step up, and there's Povetkin who is likely AJ's next opponent.

Wilder has fought two credible challengers in double the fights, and as for swerving Kubrat? He was the one initially saying he needed a few more months preparation time and then pulled out with an injury. You can't just type something and then hope it becomes reality deal with facts.

Where's the proof that AJ ducked Ortiz? I remember Luiz calling out AJ personally and Aj saying let's go or along them lines. It's like trying to say that Wilder ducked Povetkin cos that fight didn't go ahead - they're both ridiculous statements made by biased fanboys of AJ/Wilder.

[Scipio2009]

I think you'll find that it is. I'm not one of Wilder's bathwater drinkers or AJ's so I'm speaking objectively. Whatever you may think about the other fighters AJ has fought the more stern competition. We know Martin was garbage but he was a 23-0 title holder and AJ took a calculated step up, and there's Povetkin who is likely AJ's next opponent.

Wilder has fought two credible challengers in double the fights, and as for swerving Kubrat? He was the one initially saying he needed a few more months preparation time and then pulled out with an injury. You can't just type something and then hope it becomes reality deal with facts.

Where's the proof that AJ ducked Ortiz? I remember Luiz calling out AJ personally and Aj saying let's go or along them lines. It's like trying to say that Wilder ducked Povetkin cos that fight didn't go ahead - they're both ridiculous statements made by biased fanboys of AJ/Wilder.

Are you earnestly trying to call Charles Martin a legit anything? He literally won his world title because, in his first fight of any note, Czar Glazkov (who actually has built something and was supposed to win) missed a shot, tripped on his own feet and ended up blowing his knee out, lol.

Breazeale, Molina, Klitschko, Takam, Parker, and maybe Dillian Whyte

Wilder has been in more fights, but the fights he's had worth even mentioning are still:

Scott, Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz, and maybe Chris Areola and Liakhovich.

Add Povetkin for Joshua and Breazeale for Wilder, and you've got the slates of fights worth even talking about.

The Wilder quip doesn't work, because the Povetkin fight only didn't happen because of Povetkin pissing hot and nothing to do with Wilder.

[P4Pdunny]

Are you earnestly trying to call Charles Martin a legit anything? He literally won his world title because, in his first fight of any note, Czar Glazkov (who actually has built something and was supposed to win) missed a shot, tripped on his own feet and ended up blowing his knee out, lol.

Breazeale, Molina, Klitschko, Takam, Parker, and maybe Dillian Whyte

Wilder has been in more fights, but the fights he's had worth even mentioning are still:

Scott, Stiverne, Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Washington, Ortiz, and maybe Chris Areola and Liakhovich.

Add Povetkin for Joshua and Breazeale for Wilder, and you've got the slates of fights worth even talking about.

The Wilder quip doesn't work, because the Povetkin fight only didn't happen because of Povetkin pissing hot and nothing to do with Wilder.

I’m not getting at Wilder thats what you fail to realise, that was my point with the Povetkin reference. We know Martin was bum city but he had a title.

Those names you named for Wilder though are mostly pathetic. Hes had two decent opponents. I like the guy but keeping it real.

[Removed Now]

Where did you pull Joshua getting 23 million for the Parker fight from when the only confirmed public numbers had the take on the Klitschko fight being £30m (basically under $45m) and the gate and Box Office numbers were nowhere near the Klitschko fight for the Parker one? lol.

Forbes. And Celebrity networth I tend to believe that one over your numbers. Imo.

[Scipio2009]

Forbes. And Celebrity networth I tend to believe that one over your numbers. Imo.

A link would be appreciated; closest thing I've been able to find to a concrete numbers expectation would be a Forbes reporter pegging Joshua's take on the Parker fight at possibly $18m.

We can be fairly certain that Joshua-Klitschko split $45m on their fight (with each guy keeping their personal sponsors).