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Originally posted by Django1 View PostI'm neither black nor American but I am familiar with history. You call blacks crybabies and you can't take their whining anymore.
The blacks endured slavery, Jim Crow and systemic and systematic racism for hundreds of years. How could that compare with what poor little you has endured? Poor little you, you have to bare all that complaining... Tell me, who is the cry baby again ?
Apologies and Reparations were given to the Chinese for the Chinese Exclusion Act. Apologies and Reparations were given to German and Japanese Americans for having been imprisoned during WW2.
Apologies and Reparations will have to be given to African Americans before anyone can move on.
There's no need for reparations, but if you want some get them from the ***s & Arabs who were the slave traders. We punish drug dealers much more heavily than drug users. The same would go for slave dealers.
Or you can count your EBT card and welfare benefits as reparations ... or maybe you can get off your ass and stop your crybabying and do something with yourself. It's been 150 years.Last edited by buge; 06-30-2018, 01:33 PM.
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Originally posted by buge View PostAll ethnicities were enslaved at some point. Why do you think ****** are called ****** instead of africans? Because it was the white Slavs who were some of the original ******.
There's no need for reparations, but if you want some get them from the ***s & Arabs who were the slave traders. We punish drug dealers much more heavily than drug users. The same would go for slave dealers.
Or you can count your EBT card and welfare benefits as reparations ... or maybe you can get off your ass and stop your crybabying and do something with yourself. It's been 150 years.
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I'm sorry but from from where i see it the average black person who has roots from West Africa just has more strength and explosive power than the average person from any other race. You can see the results of this in 100 200 and 400 meters.
East Africans, on average, gave more endurance, see the results of 5000, 10,000 and marathon races.
Athleticism in terms of back flips whish Breadman often refers too is more evenly spread among races but doesn't seem universal. How many white Scandinavians do you see doing backflips? Brutish strength yes, but on average slower.
Russians seem to be more athletics than other whites, think of all the gymnasts, not all of that is Peds.
Notice i used the word average a lot. You can generalise on physical stuff. Not so much other measures of achievement where all the socio-economic factors come into play.
I will say that Israeli ***ish people are the most intelligent people I have ever met - on average. Can't speak for other ***ish folk because I haven't met many .
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Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View PostThe Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling dozens of topics, such as Deontay Wilder vs. Anthony Joshua, fighters deciding to remain free agents, Kevin Cunningham's growing stable of fighters, Abel Sanchez, Canelo Alvarez, and more.
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I definitely disagree that 10 defences, or whatever, automatically gets you in the HOF
no way
bread is not moving with the times
back in the day, sure..... but there are fkn titles everywhere today, they literally give that shht away..... and the (infrequent) mandatories are often very soft indeed
WHO..... with consideration given to when/how..... is all that matters
no way is Wilder HOF material..... yet !
both Wilder and Joshua have a glass-cannon aura..... that would need to disappear before you look me in the eye and tell me that they could have lived with the killers you are trying to compare them with
neither are there..... both could be on the way
we heard all that same rubbish when Golovkin was running around knocking out tomato cans..... and yet we saw what happened when he finally stepped in there with world-class opponents
the Povetkin failures really hurt Wilder..... because when Joshua beats Povetkin, he will have a much better resume than DW
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Originally posted by Marvlus Marv View PostI once thought Golovkin would be a shoo-in for the HoF but now I really don't think so unless he obliterates Canelo then stays at that level for some more big fights. Edging past Jacobs and a debatable draw with Canola ain't HoF material. I don't see GGG beating McClellan, Jones Jr, Toney, even Benn and maybe not McCallum, as Mike was definitely better than Danny Jacobs, imo. To be fair to Golovkin, he's in a weak middleweight era. Fantasy match up: GGG vs The Hawk.
good post ! 100% agree !
same with my boy Wilder, who still has some mountains to climb
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On a personal level we say that you can blame your parents for everything until you are twenty and something years old. After that it's up to you to overcome the adversity in your life and we all get dealt different hands. Most people recognise this makes sense if there is an even playing field, equal opportunities. Obviously there still isn't in many areas but who can argue that it hasn't gotten better over the last fifty years. ********** have, on average, never had it so good. But there is still prejudice, racism and extremism.
I think some of this is kickback from majorities because they are frustrated and annoyed that there is little recognition that things have gotten better from the **********.
Would be like a woman complaint to her husband that he is useless. He makes efforts to improve and he does improve but wife complains just as loudly as before. How could that not be a source of frustration for the husband. Of course they'd probably get a divorce. Not an option inside a country, we all just have to get along better.
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Originally posted by buge View PostWhen we compare active fighters to ones from the past, it's kind of natural to compare the current version of the active fighter to the prime version of the other. But you shouldn't compare an older GGG to prime versions of other fighters, or let the older GGG change your opinion of prime GGG.
GGG is 36 years old now, and was a few weeks from being 35 at the time of the Jacobs fight.
McClellan had to retire at 28 so there was no "old McClellan" to compare "old GGG" to, RJJ from 35-36 was losing 3 straight fights (2 by KO), etc.
boxing prime has little/nothing to do with age
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