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    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
    Now without reading 11 pages of this crap, I'm going to assume all of the English boxing fans have turned on Lewis just like they did with Fury and Dubois when they said they favored Wilder?

    No?

    We don't do blind patriotism like the Americans. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    Joshua DID change his tune. No doubt about it. Does that mean it's a duck? Hell no. His reasoning for changing his tune was very fair IMO.

    - Nobody told us what Wilder would get from the $50m offer. How could Joshua be sure he was getting a fair slice?

    - Wilder would have EVERYTHING else in his favour if AJ said yes.

    - If the fight exceeded expectations Wilder could have got $55m and Joshua got $55m. As the draw in this situation, AJ is not going to give up EVERY advantage for only 50%.

    Let's be real here. If Wilder offered guaranteed $50m or 60/40, maybe 65/35 split? AJ would have probably accepted.

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      Lewis ducked no one but the facts are for all to see Joshua does not want to fight wilder end of story so all you Joshua lovers face the facts he is scared of getting knocked out

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        AJ is lucky the HW division is garbage right now with really only two guys that can beat him.

        Usyk, Gassiev, Briedis and Dorticos all box the big robots ears off

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          WE knew from the get go A.J. wasn’t going to fight Wilder yet. Wilder is 32, A.J. is going to sit back and pretend to want it while getting rich.

          Whatever, it’s obvious. Even his own country mates are calling BS, they know.

          Wilder is the true champ, A.J. is pretending

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            Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
            No?

            We don't do blind patriotism like the Americans. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

            Joshua DID change his tune. No doubt about it. Does that mean it's a duck? Hell no. His reasoning for changing his tune was very fair IMO.

            - Nobody told us what Wilder would get from the $50m offer. How could Joshua be sure he was getting a fair slice?

            - Wilder would have EVERYTHING else in his favour if AJ said yes.

            - If the fight exceeded expectations Wilder could have got $55m and Joshua got $55m. As the draw in this situation, AJ is not going to give up EVERY advantage for only 50%.

            Let's be real here. If Wilder offered guaranteed $50m or 60/40, maybe 65/35 split? AJ would have probably accepted.
            Not even Hearn is painting this story. Joshua was getting 50 million, who cares what wilder gets. Hearn didn’t think the fight was worth it, so...

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              Originally posted by McNulty View Post
              I thought you were backing AJ on this matter? Apologies if I'm mistaken.
              No am not, I feel both teams deserve equal blame. More so Team AJ, I also blame Team Wilder because they shouldn’t let this saga come this far.

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                Tyson was pretty close to being a shot fighter when you fought him, Lennox. Not a fair comparison. He was nowhere near 1987/88 Tyson in 2002.

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                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  Well what can you do when one side holds all the cards as the other side agrees to all of its terms and demands? Absolutely nothing! You are at the mercy of the side with more leverage. Lennox Lewis was right. AJ had this super mega fight by the balls but changed his tune. Deontay did everything in his power to conceivably make this fight happen by making several concessions but in the end it takes two to fight and Joshua just didn't want that work.
                  Look when a fight like this falls apart then the A-side gets the blame every single time because they are the A-side, my point is quite simple. When you are not the A-side then don’t fight over money. Take the short end of the stick, get that A-side in the ring and get that win, trying the “No one pushes us around” thing never works for the B-side. Especially in this instance when we all know that Hearn would Probably rather not have the fight next, once he starts offering that fight take it. Call his bluff, the difference between is first and second offer was 2.5m, I didn’t think that was enough not to get that fight signed. People would rather fight over “Flat fee” than sign a contract. Mayweather taught us how to play that game perfectly with De la Hoya, but some of these B-side are more motivated by money.

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                    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
                    Not even Hearn is painting this story. Joshua was getting 50 million, who cares what wilder gets. Hearn didn’t think the fight was worth it, so...

                    He didn't think the fight was worth it because AJ was potentially giving up everything for only 50%. As his promoter he would not be doing his job of he encouraged AJ to take it.

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                      Coming from a true champ, Lewis knows the deal.

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