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    #21
    Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
    wouldnt it be in bob arums best interest that the fight goes on and is a major fail?

    arum has no say in this fight. all he did was make sure its televised.

    if arum had the power to sabotage this fight, it would have never been signed. he didnt want this fight anyway
    He signed the distribution rights for this fight through his PPV service because initially, he didn't want to sever all ties to Manny Pacquiao since he is no longer under contract with Top Rank.

    Therefore, he wanted to work with Manny in some capacity. However, knowing Arum, it wouldn't surprise me, if he breaches the contract for the distribution of this event on his Pay Per View channel since he is not the one promoting it.

    Moreover, the reason why Arum never wanted the fight anyway is because Matthysse is not part of his stable or talent roster. He is promoted by a rival promoter which is in this case Golden Boy Promotions and Bob has a penchant of keeping all his fighters in house.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Biolink View Post
      Pacquiao has missed deadlines on the money. This sounds purely bad business on Pac's part.
      Then it sounds like someone is freezing his line of credit because the Malaysian government had initially agreed to do business with Manny by securing him a line of credit. If he doesn't get that money and soon then this fight is going to tank.

      I still say and believe that there may be some manipulations behind the scenes because why is Manny missing money deadlines and who is holding those funds up?

      One thing I know for certain is that Bob is very happy right now. It only goes to show that Pac can't make it without him.

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        #23
        Arum trying to sabotage the fight. He having trouble rounding up low-risk/high-reward fights for Crawford. Hopefully he can get Khan in with Crawford until one of Haymon's Harem are granted permission to fight him.

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          #24
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
          Arum trying to sabotage the fight. He having trouble rounding up low-risk/high-reward fights for Crawford. Hopefully he can get Khan in with Crawford until one of Haymon's Harem are granted permission to fight him.
          You giving Bob too much credit. This has everything to do with Pacquiao delegating business to people who have no idea wtf they are doing.



          "But in the event that the fight between Manny Pacquiao (59-7-2, 38 KOs) and secondary welterweight titlist Lucas Matthysse (39-4, 36 KOs) doesn't come off -- there are numerous issues with that fight, which is scheduled for July 15 (July 14 in the United States) at the Axiata Arena in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia -- Arum said he would talk to Matthysse promoter Golden Boy Promotions about matching Crawford with Matthysse.

          "I don't know what's going to happen with the fight, but if it doesn't happen, I would hope to talk to Golden Boy about having Matthysse fight Crawford," Arum said.

          Top Rank is Pacquiao's longtime promoter, but it is not promoting the Matthysse fight. It is only handling the American television distribution, while Pacquiao's MP Promotions is the promoter of the event, but it has missed several deadlines to finance various aspects of the fight, and it is at risk of being called off.

          An initial payment of $500,000 was made to the Golden Boy/Matthysse camp when the fight was signed, but the rest of the money for their side -- $2 million, according to a source -- is more than a month past the deadline for when it was supposed to be deposited into an escrow account to hold the money until after the fight takes place.

          Golden Boy declined comment on the issue but said Matthysse continues to train with Joel Diaz in Indio, California, in preparation for the bout.

          MP Promotions has also failed to make deadlines to deposit funds needed to cover production costs of commercial spots and other aspects of a fight that was initially going to be an ESPN pay-per-view event. However, Arum said that is no longer feasible because so many deadlines were missed and that if the fight comes off it would air in the U.S. either on ESPN or ESPN+, but that the television deal still needed to be finalized."

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            #25
            Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
            Uh-Oh, I hope Bob isn't behind the scenes pulling strings in order to sabotage this fight because he was totally cut out of the promotional side of the event. I am not saying he is but it is highly likely and there is the strong possibility that he could be setting Manny Pacquiao up to fail.
            He obviously is. When he said, “If it falls through I will make Crawford-Matthysse” let me know that he’s doing something behind the scenes to sabatoge Manny

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              #26
              HBO wanted to make the Crawford/Matthysse a year or so ago.
              Bobfather said no and went on a rant saying Nelson can't tell him what to do with his fighters.
              HBO was then forced to make Postol vs Matthysse.
              Two foreign fighters who casuals hardly know.

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                #27
                Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
                He obviously is. When he said, “If it falls through I will make Crawford-Matthysse” let me know that he’s doing something behind the scenes to sabatoge Manny
                I agree. For one he is hurt because Manny left him and two he is jealous because Manny is now working with Oscar De La Hoya; A rival competitor.

                As far as him saying he would work with Golden Boy to co-promote a Crawford vs a Matthysse fight; It's a bunch of bullshit. That was the main reason why he was against Pac fighting Lucas in the first place because he is promoted by a rival promoter.

                In addition, we all know Arum. He likes to keep all his fighters in house among his own stable.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by eco1 View Post
                  and why would you laugh at another man’s bad fate?

                  How little or small or anything diminutive you are as a man.
                  Oh STFU you little sensitive twit with your p ussy hurting.

                  If the fight gets cancelled it is Pacquiao's fault and if it does he should have known better. This wouldn't be the first time things like this happen with him.

                  I hope it doesn't get cancelled, I know I and lots of others would like to see it.

                  But if it does, yes I would LMAO in a sense because Pacquiao should know better.

                  But I do hope the fight does happen though.

                  Now take your little sensitive B.S. elsewhere.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                    Uh-Oh, I hope Bob isn't behind the scenes pulling strings in order to sabotage this fight because he was totally cut out of the promotional side of the event. I am not saying he is but it is highly likely and there is the strong possibility that he could be setting Manny Pacquiao up to fail.
                    This is what i believe. I think Bob is trying to teach Manny a lesson.

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                      #30
                      I see no point in a Matthysse fight.

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