Comments Thread For: WBC Prez: Wilder-Joshua Deal Will Be Tough To Make

[SAINTSTEVE]

What I would have done is made it a two fight deal wherein they got one more round of exposure, where for example Wilder fought Whyte in the U.K., with the assurance that the showdown would be their next fight and the splits agreed to by a mediator. Because I do think the fight could be bigger after one more round of tuneups but Povetkin is dangerous for a tuneup, but that's way too much for the promoters to work out I guess.

[Laligalaliga]

Money and Buisness dictates everything. As everyone has been saying for quite a while, if Joshua wants to be GLOBAL not LOCAL, the US is Waiting. He got offered 50M GURANTEE, even Pacquaio didnt get that against Mayweather in 2012. UnderArmour and Showtime are two of AJ's Biggest Backers they will be advising him to go to Vegas and get that Belt instead of pandering to drunk fans

You still don't want to agree that the home of HW is now in the UK.
Time for Vegas must host the mega fight is gone. We have options now and the A side is in UK. There is nothing you and I can do about it.
Let's not bother to bring this site down, it is what it is.

[BigStomps]

You beat me to it.
When neither is hispanic or mexican, he doesn't take sides. How fair-minded of the unprincipled c*nt.

I'm Mexican and I'll say this....
Fucc Suleiman that greasy fuccing crooked slimeball!

[SteveM]

One thing that has changed in the last 3 months is that Fury has a date for a fight
There is probably more money in a Fury fight than a wilder fight and fury is less risky so Fury first Wilder second , just business

[Laligalaliga]

Joshua said, "If it is a $100 million dollar fight and they are happy with 60-40, I'll take 50-50. Give me $50 million dollars up front and I SWEAR I'll take that fight tomorrow"......"They're not making offers like that, but they're talking about it, so its not real...".....Joshuas bluff was called.....now he'll take approx $10 million less to fight in front of a 99% UK crowd.....he wasn't "kidding" then and he's not kidding now. Master Hearn does not want his robot to lose, because its his major source of income, so he'll try his slick hardest to get EVERY ADVANTAGE POSSIBLE, even if it means going back on their word is the format.

Now let's look at it from a promoters point of view, let's also assume you are AJ's promoter.
What will you do at this stage of negotiations?

[BigStomps]

AJ will travel to America to face big baby miller.. if fact.. they would like to face miller in his backyard.. in Brooklyn. AJ and hearn has said they are tired of overpaying opponents.. and is not going to overpay wilder.. Hearn said parker was a harder fight than wilder.. an that AJ can KO wilder in 3rds! AJ has said wilder is too light.. and that he will eat him.. AJ has said "if this is a hundred million dollar fight.. and they are comfortable with taking 60/40.. I'll take 50/50 but give me 50 million guarantee and I will take that fight tomorrow, I swear" then hearns said its just a P.R stunt.. then.. we want to take a 20 million paycut to have it in the u.k.. wtf!?!?!? Stop lying (Superman AJ) don't want to face (Doomsday Wilder.) Either he is scared or he is on peds. Pick one scary fanpunks! Attention all fearful AJ fans.. yes, your champions ******** sag like coochie lips!!! Fight Povetkin an get destroyed in russia.. makes no difference to us.. Wilder is the real champion. Povetkin will fight wilder.. so we will have all the belts either way eventually! BombSquad!!!

Wilder is this you???

[BigStomps]

That's a damned good point. If this fight doesn't get made it will leave Wilder in a really weak position. What big names would take on Wilder for $2m when they could fight AJ for 3/4/5 times as much? He'll just end up eating mandatories which few people will be interested in and struggling to get the really big names into the ring (without taking a pay cut on what is already a fairly small pot).

Team Wilder need to make this fight happen because:

if they lose - they still make their biggest payday (we know it's gonna be $12.5 at the very least so a split representing $20m is likely to be negotiable). Wilder still has a very entertaining style so a loss is unlikely to dramatically affect his future earning potential.

if they win - they've just been given the keys to the money factory and Wilder becomes one of the biggest names in sports.

As I see it Here's what Team Wilder need to do:
Make it very clear that they're willing to travel to the UK to fight then if Hearn doesn't give them a fair offer take it to the public again. If Hearn tries to low-ball then AJ's reputation (and Hearn's) will be tarnished.

But to be clear, the risk-reward factor being as it is, Wilder shouldn't worry about breaking the bank with this fight - he should be thinking about the potential riches he'll make if he wins (making history in the process).

I know some people will cry about this because it will sound like I'm backing Hearn (which I wouldn't do); but I would have taken the $12.5m offer and just said

"I'mma knock your ass out and then I'll be the ruler of the division"

AJ would have been legally locked down to a contract and if AJ had squirmed a way out of the fight whilst being under contract then he would be exposed as a ducker to the whole world... ergo he would be forced to fight and Wilder would have his shot at making history and making bank. Personally, I think AJ is willing to fight anyway, but it would guarantee the fight which Wilder has been talking about being desperate for for so long

You my friend broke it down good!
I agree with everything you said!

[Laligalaliga]

dw came with concrete offer.
aj came back with a concrete ''if you do i will''
with that move, aj placed dw in the drivers seat.
dw came through.
aj.............pay cut.

had aj accepted and dw flip flopped, aj fans would pollute this place with all sorts of hate threads.

will it be fair to say both of them didn't stick to their social media ranting?

[5000boxing]

smiles... you sound like this is a programmed computer game.
Be real my friend, this is reality.

Lmao.. you can't argue with a damn thing I said because what I say is nothing but real.. you're the farthest thing from reality if you can't see how AJ is a spoiled lying lil bytch princess.. that either loaded up with riods to the gills or he truly fears Wilder's right hand. There's no other excuse.. I imagine its the right hand.. because he will come to jarell millers backyard..

[Laligalaliga]

Well there's a risk if he fights Povetkin that he will lose the payday so I think he should take the fight now wherever it can make him the most money. That would be the bold thing to do.

You are only giving advice, I want you to take it personal considering other factors surrounding AJ and his team.