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    #21
    Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
    Oliver McCall took his 0. Hasim Rahman exposed him. Both Americans.
    Lewis beats Rahman 9 times out of 10... probably more like 99 times out of 100.

    If we're honest, I think basically anyone can see that.

    This argument is dumb though; on many levels. You'd probably be better off just ignoring it.

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      #22
      Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
      You sound crazy as hell. The best Boxer in 154lb is American, 147, American, 140 previously Crawford - American, 126 also American. All your best fighters besides calazge were beaten by black Americans. Joshua will fall like hatton, Lewis, froch, Khan, brook, Groves, degale and many others. I am not going to include Irish fighters but you get the deal. It goes USA , then Mexico, then the UK (as a whole), Russia, then PR (they fell off big time).
      126? What American is the best fighter there? There's Santa Cruz (Mexican), Carl Frampton (UK), and Gary Russell Jr. (American). At this point, I would think Santa Cruz is considered the best in that division right now.

      But yes, Americans are the best at 147 and 154. 140 probably as well, but that's such a bad division I wouldn't mind.



      Don't forget, the U.S. has two of the best fighters (Jermall and Jacobs) in a division where the UK really only has Billy Joe Saunders (middleweight). The only really strong UK division seems to be at 168 and heavyweight (which is not saying much since heavyweight is overall low in terms of skill depth).

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        #23
        Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
        Lewis beats Rahman 9 times out of 10... probably more like 99 times out of 100.

        If we're honest, I think basically anyone can see that.

        This argument is dumb though; on many levels. You'd probably be better off just ignoring it.
        You just proved my point! Most English fighters get exposed by American fighters. Your math sceneries don't matter. He lost to two American bums !!! Next ! UK doesnt run boxing at all.

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          #24
          Originally posted by SniXSniPe View Post
          126? What American is the best fighter there? There's Santa Cruz (Mexican), Carl Frampton (UK), and Gary Russell Jr. (American). At this point, I would think Santa Cruz is considered the best in that division right now.

          But yes, Americans are the best at 147 and 154. 140 probably as well, but that's such a bad division I wouldn't mind.



          Don't forget, the U.S. has two of the best fighters (Jermall and Jacobs) in a division where the UK really only has Billy Joe Saunders (middleweight). The only really strong UK division seems to be at 168 and heavyweight (which is not saying much since heavyweight is overall low in terms of skill depth).
          I thought Leo Santa Cruz was American citizen . Mexican -American but if you want it to be just Mexican then I take it back.

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            #25
            Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
            You just proved my point! Most English fighters get exposed by American fighters. Your math sceneries don't matter. He lost to two American bums !!! Next ! UK doesnt run boxing at all.
            You said that Lewis got exposed by Rahman. What I'm saying is that that's clearly not right and I think any objective observer would agree. You don't get exposed as a heavyweight by getting hit and KO'd by a huge shot.

            When I referred to the argument being a dumb one and not worth your time I meant that when people say ****** **** like:

            "UK boxers are the new master-race, blah blah blah" you'd probably be better off not rising to it.

            But if you want to waste your time engaging in that kind of meaningless and baseless argument then be my guest

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              #26
              Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
              You don't get exposed as a heavyweight by getting hit and KO'd by a huge shot.
              Let me qualify that statement,

              "you don't necessarily get exposed as a heavyweight by getting hit and KO'd by a huge shot."

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                #27
                Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
                You said that Lewis got exposed by Rahman. What I'm saying is that that's clearly not right and I think any objective observer would agree. You don't get exposed as a heavyweight by getting hit and KO'd by a huge shot.

                When I referred to the argument being a dumb one and not worth your time I meant that when people say ****** **** like:

                "UK boxers are the new master-race, blah blah blah" you'd probably be better off not rising to it.

                But if you want to waste your time engaging in that kind of meaningless and baseless argument then be my guest
                Oh ok. Fair enough thanks for the advice.
                I still think he's chin got exposed in those fights. But maybe it was lucky punch.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post
                  Let me qualify that statement,

                  "you don't necessarily get exposed as a heavyweight by getting hit and KO'd by a huge shot."
                  No need to rephrase it. I read your opinion clearly.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
                    You sound crazy as hell. The best Boxer in 154lb is American, 147, American, 140 previously Crawford - American, 126 also American. All your best fighters besides calazge were beaten by black Americans. Joshua will fall like hatton, Lewis, froch, Khan, brook, Groves, degale and many others. I am not going to include Irish fighters but you get the deal. It goes USA , then Mexico, then the UK (as a whole), Russia, then PR (they fell off big time).
                    Hatton was ripped off by Joe Cortez in his fight with Floyd. Plus, it was at a weight that didn't suit him but Floyd wouldn't fight at 140 because he's a *****, just like he was for most of his career.

                    Lewis beat every American that he fought. Trying to paint a picture of Lewis failing against Americans is nothing but crazy talk. Lewis didn't even prepare properly for Rahman and couldn't even breath properly either due to the altitude.

                    Froch beat 2 black Americans but was beaten by one. So you fail there again.

                    Khan didn't lose to a black American. If you're counting Peterson, he lost that fight. It was a robbery. Plus he was on drugs the dirty cheat. So that's another fail.

                    Brook had a damaged eye and had to boil down to Welter after fighting at Middle. So I wouldn't boast about that one. And anyway, when Brook had something in the tank in the first half of the fight he was easily beating Spence. I only gave Spence 1 round in the first 6. It was only when it got deep into the fight did Spence start to have some success after Brook started to tire quite badly.

                    Groves has never lost to an American? What are you talking about?

                    Degale got his title back after losing to Truex. But to be fair, Degale didn't look the same fighter after Jack.

                    So yeah, nothing to really shout about. And anyway, Brits beat Americans the vast majority of the time we fight. I've had to correct a few Americans on this before only to make complete fools of them over this. Would you like me to make a fool of you as well?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JcLazyX210 View Post
                      Oliver McCall took his 0. Hasim Rahman exposed him. Both Americans.
                      Haha Lewis was exposed by Rahman? Exposed as what?

                      Lewis didn't even train for that fight and was done badly by the altitude. When they fought on an even level in the rematch, Lewis dominated and knocked Rahamn out with ease.

                      You're talking some mad rubbish. I actually can't wait for you to reply so I can school the life out of you like I did your fellow Americans. Haha.

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