Canelo turned in purchase information of where meat was bought

[paulf]

alot of people, ever heard of itemizing? hell grocieres can be a deductible for Canelo.

[Redd Foxx]

And it's working!

Honestly, if he's cheating (which is highly possible) I don't think it's clen. He is stacked and that's not a clen thing. Nothing about him looks like someone who uses clen, particularly since he never bulks to the point that he would need clen to shed a lot of fat. Any softness he gets in the off season is stuff that easily comes off when you train for a fight. Why use clen at the start of a camp and about to naturally get leaner. And, he wouldn't be using it off-season as that makes no sense either, esp when he's known for his lean mass (again, clen users are either fitness models or BBrs who get fat and have to trim).

That bulk he maintains could be something else. I don't think it's impossible to have his physique as he's not that big or that lean, and he's still young. But, if he's using, I suspect it's something else entirely. If he fails for something else in the future, bump this.

[SceneBoxer]

What happen to "the dog ate my receipts" excuse?

Poor dog... R.I.P. dog...

[sunny31]

how does this prove anything? Im not some expert on the meat industry, but unless its one big mother****ing cow, wouldnt most pieces of meat from the supermark be from different animal? i dont really understand how they can prove the meat that canelo ate, did or did not have clen in it. We can make this **** real simple for the future, if you fail the test, you are assumed to be a cheat. If you dont want to risk that, dont eat meat thats got a bad reputation.

They can trace it back to where the supermarket farmed the meat from based on the dates they can pretty much give you an accurate yes or no answer, or at the least whether that farmer has a track record of using steroids on the animals. It is how they cleared that Mexican soccer team. Also why Contador wasn't cleared, he couldn't provide that proof.

Also not sure why people keep referring to this meat as 'low quality', and it's not just Mexico that this happens in. It is a big problem in almost every country inn the world, food corporations have too much money and are too powerful, and farmers are under more and more pressure. Some of you guys need to watch Food Inc.

I'm not sure on Canelo either way, but this is all food for thought...pun intended.

[HarvardBlue]

Honestly, if he's cheating (which is highly possible) I don't think it's clen. He is stacked and that's not a clen thing. Nothing about him looks like someone who uses clen, particularly since he never bulks to the point that he would need clen to shed a lot of fat. Any softness he gets in the off season is stuff that easily comes off when you train for a fight. Why use clen at the start of a camp and about to naturally get leaner. And, he wouldn't be using it off-season as that makes no sense either, esp when he's known for his lean mass (again, clen users are either fitness models or BBrs who get fat and have to trim).

That bulk he maintains could be something else. I don't think it's impossible to have his physique as he's not that big or that lean, and he's still young. But, if he's using, I suspect it's something else entirely. If he fails for something else in the future, bump this.

Maybe he got caught with something else (or multiple substances) and they're only saying it's clen because it has a history of being in the meat in Mexico...

[NC Uppercut]

Report by Boxing News 24 on info from Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times:



Boxing News 24


Canelo must prove to Commission clenbuterol levels came from meat



By Jeff Aranow: Saul Canelo Alvarez will be meeting with the Nevada Commission on April 10th to prove to them that his 2 failed tests from the banned substance clenbuterol came from contaminated meat. Documentation on the purchase of the contaminated meat has been turned into the Nevada Commission by Golden Boy Promotions, according to Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times.


Now it’s up to Commission to decide whether the information is enough to clear the 27-year-old Canelo. The levels that Canelo tested positive for with clenbuterol are said to be low and within the range of someone that had eaten contaminated beef. It’s going to be difficult for the Nevada Commission to prove that Canelo’s positive test for clenbuterol didn’t come from him eating contaminated meat. The levels are low enough for them to be consistent with someone having eaten meat that contained the substance. If the Commission is going to allow fighters to use the excuse that they ate contaminated meat for them to be cleared, then it’s likely Canelo will be given the green light by the Nevada Commission on April 10 to go ahead and fight Golovkin.

Some boxing fans might not like it, but the Commission allows the meat excuse to be used. If they’re going to allow fighters to swerve being penalized by them saying they ate contaminated meat, then Canelo will likely be cleared on April 10. It’s going to make the Commission look bad to some fans, but there’s nothing that can be done about that.

The Nevada Commission will want to hear what Canelo says on April 10 about his 2 positive tests for clenbuterol. Canelo’s first failed test on February 17 is said to have been 10 times higher for levels of clenbuterol for the second positive test on February 20. However, the tests were both low. It’s unclear what the Commission is going to ask Canelo.

It would seem that the low levels of his two positive tests should be enough for Canelo to be cleared. Canelo only has to say he ate contaminated meat, and then give the Commission the receipts for when and where he purchased the food. However, it would be a different story if the Commission didn’t allow fighters to use the contaminated meat excuse for them to avoid being suspended and penalized.



Low levels of a drug don’t necessarily mean that fighter ate contaminated meat. It could mean that the testing was done at the time the fighter was coming off the drug. You can argue that’s why the Commission should cancel the fight, because they have no way of knowing for certain how the clenbuterol got into Canelo’s system. If they’re going to make a judgment call and guess, then Golovkin could face a guy that has possibly used a drug to help him lean out his physique before starting training camp. Since then Commission can’t ever know for sure in cases like this, it’s better that they cancel a fight rather than letting it continue in my opinion.

I mean his team only owns butcher shops in Mexico.... Luck is for the mediocre my friend

[BLASTER1]

This all just seems really dodgy its laughable.
This receipt will be his get out of jail card.

[_Maxi]

Honestly, if he's cheating (which is highly possible) I don't think it's clen. He is stacked and that's not a clen thing. Nothing about him looks like someone who uses clen, particularly since he never bulks to the point that he would need clen to shed a lot of fat. Any softness he gets in the off season is stuff that easily comes off when you train for a fight. Why use clen at the start of a camp and about to naturally get leaner. And, he wouldn't be using it off-season as that makes no sense either, esp when he's known for his lean mass (again, clen users are either fitness models or BBrs who get fat and have to trim).

That bulk he maintains could be something else. I don't think it's impossible to have his physique as he's not that big or that lean, and he's still young. But, if he's using, I suspect it's something else entirely. If he fails for something else in the future, bump this.

I think he's either using PEDs or has some premium genetics.

He could be using clen during the end of the off season maybe to reduce a bit the amount of fat during those times, in combination with something else to add a bit of muscle maybe? and only the clen was detected.

The fact that he cancelled VADA testing after starting it, so he could make 154 against Smith was a huge red flag that some people liked to ignore, but not me, I remember it perfectly.

The way in which the Clen concentrations changed between the first and the second test three days later, shows that the "contamination" lasted for many days and had 10 times the concentration the first day, which is consistent with someone finishing a cycle.

We don't know but Canelo deserves all the **** he's getting. He believed he was bigger than the game and didn't respect the sport for years. This goes as far as losing millions because he didn't respect the contract he had with his original promoter. Not to mention the bought judges in all his fights.

Why is he being tested 2 1/2 months before a fight when we have several top fighters now being tested 365? not fair either.

[The D3vil]

I think Breadman made a good point a few days ago when he wondered why Canelo hasn't been testing positive all these years for Clen if he'd been eating "tainted beef" all this time.

I mean, if you think about it, either he's never eaten Mexican beef until very recently, or he's lying and just got caught doping, or he was doping and eating Mexican beef all this time, but has been beating drug tests.

It's pretty unlikely that if it was the mean that this would be his first positive test for something he'd been eating his whole life.

[Fetta]

Who saves their grocery receipts for that long? As if you couldn't rig the outcome of the investigation by paying off a supermarket to hand over some tainted meat to an investigator. More posturing to clear his name. Dude is a cheat.

I do!

If he bought it for training then his accountant probably saved them itemizing his taxes.