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    Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
    Why don’t you answer the question?

    “If Canelo was not a middleweight when he was the middleweight champion, what was he then?”

    #expectingtheansweracaneloweight

    he was a JMW who picked up the middleweight strap when he beat the 153lb JMW Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 155

    if I smacked over your big horse of a mother, would that make me a heavyweight?

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      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
      I said mandatory, which is what makes Golovkin situation with Canelo a little different. Golovkin was mandatory. Brook wasn't mandatory. Rosado wasn't mandatory. Ward was a champion in a higher division. You do see the difference?

      "Scared to walk the walk...", you mean go down to the bare minimum of the weight division?

      So, when boxers, and they all do it, talk sh it, why is it I only see you calling Golovkin out? You're not an excuse making, creepy fanboy, are you? Of course, running around trying to redefine weight divisions might answer that.

      Lastly, yes, tell us how catchweights are great when it's middleweight champion Golovkin coming down for middleweight champion Alvarez, but it's no good when it's SUPER middleweight champion Ward coming down for middleweight champion Golovkin. Tell us about that.

      no, I do not..... you excuse-making clown

      FACT: Golovkin said he would fight Canelo at 154
      FACT: Golovkin said if Canelo vacated the title, he would fight him at catchweight
      FACT: AFTER Canelo vacated, he continued to pursue that fight with Golovkin..... but Mr "154-168" shat the bed over weight..... AGAIN!!!

      so..... your excuses are bullshht kid

      stop embarrassing yourself you fkn clown

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        Originally posted by Shape up View Post

        there is the link ******, i dont lie like you gimp now answer the questions you spineless pile of shlt

        * Sanchez said they would give Brook a catchweight doe

        * Rosado doe

        * excuses doe lol


        Rosado refused to fight Golovkin at a 158 pound catchweight. Rosado's adviser had successfully negotiated the catchweight but the fighter of Puerto Rican descent refused to fight at any weight lower than the 160 pound middleweight limit.
        //krikya360.com/gabe-rosa...me-star--61272

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          Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          your lieing, he did not offer a CW to brook, the above link has hearn saying he asked for a CW and was refused, so the truthful story that would never come from a lieing sack of shlt like you is that rosado was offered a CW and did not accept it, ggg took a lot of heat in the media over it and has NEVER OFFERED A CW AGAIN, isnt that right you jellyfish aboutfkntimeyoustoppedlieing


          right..... so shut your excuse-making ****-warmer

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            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            he was a JMW who picked up the middleweight strap when he beat the 153lb JMW Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 155

            if I smacked over your big horse of a mother, would that make me a heavyweight?
            A jmw? Why didn’t he then just vacate after picking up the strap?

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              1) explain why Golovkin totally refused to negotiate on weight with the SUPERSTARS Cotto and Canelo...... but was more than happy to offer a catchweight to no-hopers like Rosado/Brook?

              2) explain why Golovkin stated that he is ready and willing to fight a JMW at 154, but nobody will step up..... AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto Canelo?

              Originally posted by Shape up View Post
              ive answered the first question in the above posts, you know where i proved your a liar, the second part is easy, 154 is JMW so its a different division, 155 is MW as anyone with any intelligence understands so then he can fight at 160 and still be in the same division, your exceptionally fucn dumb

              you did not ****head

              why did Hypekin REFUSE a catchweight for Cotto and Canelo, despite being willing to fight Rosado (and Sanchez confirmed, Brook) at catchweight?

              forget Brook, you excuse-making muppet..... what about Rosado?

              you have not answered either of those question..... so, hop to it

              1) why did Hypekin REFUSE a catchweight for Cotto and Canelo, despite being willing to fight Rosado at catchweight?

              2) explain why Golovkin stated that he is ready and willing to fight a JMW at 154, but nobody will step up..... AFTER refusing to negotiate on weight with Cotto Canelo?

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                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                I've already said lomachenko could fight in MW if the fight was sanctioned, 155lb falls in the MW division so it would be sanctioned as a MW fight

                FACT: if you think that a guy who fights at 155 is a genuine middleweight..... then you are a ****head

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                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  Technically it would be a catchweight fight.

                  Middleweight has the limit set at 160lbs, not 155lbs.

                  so correct..... and, so obvious !!

                  this guy passed, is anyone else up for the muppet challenge?
                  Last edited by aboutfkntime; 01-06-2018, 05:05 PM.

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                    * happy to give Rosado a catchweight
                    * happy to give Brook a catchweight
                    * happy to fight everyone else at 154.....





                    everyone EXCEPT for Cotto and Canelo lol

                    you clowns have embarrassed yourselves

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                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      oh fk, so..... you are one of those f@ggots ?

                      one of the deny'ers

                      “The fight is No.1, not for money, not for business,” Golovkin said. “I want the fight. My focus is 160. This is my goal to hold all the belts. Andre, I don’t understand if he’s 168 or 175. I don’t know. He works at 168. I’m 160. I think [fighting in the] middle is very correct, not 160, not 168. 164 is very correctly.



                      It’s possible to think of better unmade fights right now than Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin, but the list only goes a couple fingers, tops. The two have danced around each other for the last couple years, each side accusing the other of not really wanting to lambada. But at this precise moment, it’s easy to pinpoint the perpetrator.

                      This month Golovkin’s team made explicit that they want the fight at 164 lbs. with a 50-50 purse split. The split is perfectly reasonable, and only has gotten more reasonable over time; there was a period when the idea of Andre Ward vs Gennady Golovkin at 50-50 was goofy given how much better ratings and how much larger crowds Ward (above left) was drawing, but Golovkin (above right) has caught up pretty well on those metrics by staying busy, looking impressive and becoming a fan favorite.

                      The 164-pound thing? Ludicrous. Golovkin, as we’ve said here a million times, is under no obligation to move up from middleweight. But he has indicated a willingness to fight Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr. at the full super middleweight limit. As a source (apparently one on Ward’s side) told BoxingScene:

                      “Ward wants to fight Golovkin and he wants to fight him next. But it won’t happen at 164-pounds. By accepting 168 with Carl Froch and Chavez Jr, but then demanding 164 with Ward – it’s their way of saying ‘we don’t want to fight Andre Ward.”

                      There’s really no other explanation other than a version of that one. Ward has said repeatedly he couldn’t get below 168 if he tried, and his last fight was at 172. With Golovkin’s side saying they’ll only take the fight at 164, they’re either trying to make it look like they want the fight at all, knowing it won’t happen at that number; or they’re saying they’re only willing to fight Ward if he cripples himself.

                      And yes, you can point fingers at Ward about being guilty of this kind of thing for the Chad Dawson fight. The situation was slightly different there because Dawson, the light heavyweight champion, volunteered that he’d be willing to fight at 168, but given the catchweight Ward has taken some abuse for what was otherwise a win over a top fighter, and it’s not undeserved.

                      The other major difference, though, is that Golovkin is a fan favorite where Ward is a more divisive figure, so he probably won’t catch as much hell. As a fan of both Golovkin and Ward, I’d rather neither of them sought any catchweights, or that anyone else did, even when they’re more fair or reasonable than what Golovkin is requesting. This is just my reminder to all the boxing people out there that when it comes to advantage-hunting and trying to weaken opponents and trying to force the blame for a fight not happening, some fighters play a bit dirtier than others, but almost everyone is playing the same game, no matter how much their reputation is as a fearless warrior.
                      Seriously...I'm not reading all that. This has gone off on quite a tangent. You seem pretty angry and want to endlessly argue about Canelo ggg, which I don't really care about, unless we're talking about their rematch.

                      I simply stated that a fighter weighing 155lbs is a mw, which is just a fact. If you disagree with it...tell me what weight class 155lbs falls into.

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