If Wlad is a great win for Joshua then Oscar,Mosley,Manny were elite wins for floyd

[chrisJS]

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those are two different forms of destruction.

In one fight pedman got knocked out, the other he got schooled.

Yeah, but he was washed up and at a big size disadvantage in the boring fight. Fight only counts financially but nothing else.

[djtmal]

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It was a terrible uneventful fight. If you want to see a destruction in a great fight watch Marquez-Pacquaio IV. The end of Pacquaio as an elite fighter.

You probably think MayPac was better though which is insane given how awful on the eye it was.

floyd's clinchcount in that fight was over 100

wore out the threads on that first pair of trackshoes and had to throw on a new pair halfway through the fight

[D4thincarnation]

Thats easy, he landed 2 right off the bat in the first round which set the pace of the fight.

Ill watch the fight again later tonight if you really want but If you watch it you will easily find punches landed by mayweather. Especially from the right hand, left hook and the jab.

He landed more than pedman


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First one is a weak jab and a hook that never landed clean.

Second one is a pull counter that lands on his shoulder, not a scoring shot. Maybe Floyd was aiming for his damaged shoulder.

Third, looks like a clean straight, partially blocked, not much purchase on it though.

Fourth is a touch right straight.


You know boxing is judged on clean hard punching, don't you?

But thanks for proving my point, by showing Floyd's best from that fight.

[New England]

Whilst your arrogance normally annoys me, you are completely right on this issue.

arrognt

because i know what i'm talking about and recognize it, i am arrogant, aye?

[GhostofDempsey]

While I agree with that, I don't think there's any chance Floyd would have ever lost to Pacquiao.

Look at the Mosley fight. A lot of people were pissed at Shane for moving the way he did and not making it a fight. I was explaining to the people the reason he was able to move like that on Pac was because he's very one dimensional. He comes in a straight line and doesn't mix up his shots at all. Floyd will do the same thing but he'll damn near win every round doing it and everyone will be pissed because he gave him a boxing lesson.

At 135 I favor Mosley. Even the version of Mosley who defeated Oscar. Pac from 2099-2012 absolutely beats Floyd IMO. We are talking prime Pac with speed, footwork and two healthy shoulders. Floyd wanted no part of it which is why he started those false accusations to begin with.

[D4thincarnation]

arrognt

because i know what i'm talking about and recognize it, i am arrogant, aye?

Definition of arrogance

:an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions


Do you think your knowledge is superior to most posters, and do you assume you are telling things they don't know?

[Lomadeaux]

At 135 I favor Mosley. Even the version of Mosley who defeated Oscar. Pac from 2099-2012 absolutely beats Floyd IMO. We are talking prime Pac with speed, footwork and two healthy shoulders. Floyd wanted no part of it which is why he started those false accusations to begin with.

I disagree. Floyd fought Cotto in '12 because they wouldn't take the fight. That's when all the talk started big time about what the hell is going on. People started to blame Top Rank and Arum. It was a mess.

Floyd beat Shane before Pac beat Shane (which was in '11). Pac kept coming forward in the same straight line that he did with Floyd. That's what I'm referring to. I was explaining to the people I was watching the fight with that the fight isn't "boring" because of Mosley. It's boring because of Pac. He doesn't cut the ring off effectively with someone who can move. That's why when Floyd fights him, he's going to out box him the entire time and there will be no fight that people want.

----- A PERFECT example of what I'm talking about is how Mayweather-Mosley was 10x the fight Pac-Mosley was. Floyd coming forward vs Pac coming forward.

Sure enough, that's what happened. Then the excuses poured in. The fact is, no version of Pacquiao would have ever bothered Floyd.

Also, JMM almost killed Pac in '12.

[New England]

Definition of arrogance

:an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions


Do you think your knowledge is superior to most posters, and do you assume you are telling things they don't know?

i know i'm the best, or at least among the small handful of the best this forum has to offer.


am i overbearing i think is the crux of what you're getting at when you post a dictionary definition like a high school kid. i rarely talk directly about how much better i am than 99.something percent of you guys. i just demonstrate it. by bufu'ing ya.

[Lomadeaux]

Maybe Floyd was aiming for his damaged shoulder.

Bro, you got some waking up to do. Nobody... had Pac winning that fight.

[One Of A Kind]

How do people always find a way to involve Floyd?