Comments Thread For: Wilder: I Don't Think Joshua Has The Motivation To Unify - I Do!

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its so prestigious they sancionted stirverne vs arreola for it? so prestigious they made stirverne mandatory after 1 fight in 3 years against derric rossy? so prestigious brezele fights molina for the next mandatory spot? its mind bobblin what you just said

Nothing you've stated contradicts our position. There are criticisms that can be lobbed at any of the titles, but objectively the WBC is still the most prestigious. Joshua's promoter and Wilder's promoter have both stated that publicly many times. Nobody in the industry disputes that the WBC championship is the most desirable.

Stiverne was moved to #5 after losing the title. Those in front of him lost, fought for other titles or retired. As the former champion, with those in front of him losing, fighting for other titles or retiring, Stiverne fighting an eliminator to become the next mandatory was perfectly reasonable. Had Stiverne defeated Povetkin, you wouldn't be complaining about his ranking.

But Povetkin cheated. Not your fault. Not our fault. Not Stiverne's fault. With Wilder's mandatory way overdue, Stiverne lucked into a mandatory. It's not ideal, but the fault is Povetkin's. Stiverne agreed to risk his position against Breazeale in a final eliminator.

But King Kong cheated. Not your fault. Not our fault. Not Breazeale's fault. So Breazeale is facing the leading available contender. It's not ideal, but the fault is King Kong's.

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Joshua has with just 20 fights a better record than Wilder with 38.

Joshua has never faced a top 5 fighter. Wilder has faced, and dominated, a top 3 fighter.

Joshua is still young and what he's accomplished is very impressive. He's taking his time, as he should. But you can't lie about the facts and the fact is that Joshua has never faced a top 5 fighter, let alone a top 3 fighter. Wilder has.

Yes, Joshua earns more money. Congratulations. Unless you're getting a cut of it, I'm not sure why you'd care.

Joshua is a huge star. Hearn is protecting his investment. As he should. Wilder is the biggest risk and therefore the guy you face last. This is how this works. Fury is the smallest risk and therefore the guy you face first.

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stirverne is a shot mess. even if he was once a better fighter which is dubious, he no longer is

But you can't rewrite history. Even if Stiverne is a shot mess, it doesn't change the fact that Wilder has the higher ranked win on his resume than Joshua does.

Beating Stiverne 3 years ago was a more impressive win than beating Takam now.

You're arguing against something nobody said. Nobody said beating Stiverne NOW is more impressive than beating Takam. When the facts aren't on your side, you resort to arguing against things nobody actually said.

[vitali1999]

You don't even have the motivation to fight a guy ranked in the top 5 cause you never have. But you want to unify. ****** along with your fans. The only reason he's fighting his first mandatory in 3 years is because the WBC is making him. Otherwise it would be another unranked BUM. BUMSQUAD !!!!!!!!!

[cally93]

If the fight doesn’t happen in 2018 then we can all lose out minds (I think it will) until then it’s all just trash and smack talk from both parties.

[daggum]

But you can't rewrite history. Even if Stiverne is a shot mess, it doesn't change the fact that Wilder has the higher ranked win on his resume than Joshua does.

Beating Stiverne 3 years ago was a more impressive win than beating Takam now.

You're arguing against something nobody said. Nobody said beating Stiverne NOW is more impressive than beating Takam. When the facts aren't on your side, you resort to arguing against things nobody actually said.

its not a fact. you are a cherry picking confirmation bias clown. ring had klitschko at #1. so its a fact klitschko was ranked higher than stirverne. dont you feel bad you are trying to argue beating stirverne is better than beating klitschko? you have no shame? :bukkake:

[MDPopescu]

... When he was 27-28 yo, Wilder wasn't ready for Vitali... Joshua is 28 yo...

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ring had klitschko at #1.

The magazine is owned by HBO's leading promoter. Of course they broke their rules and kept HBO's fighter #1 despite his inactivity.

You lose all credibility when you continue to use any magazine ratings from after the magazine was purchased by DLH.

[soul_survivor]

Deontay Wilder has been champion for 2 years and 10 months. That is a total of 34 months for anyone who does not have basic mathematical skills.

In that time he has fought 5 times, not a single one of those fights has come against another champion or a fighter even approaching being a champion. He is now 32, unknown without a single big money fight under his belt.

So I ask you, where has this motivation to be unified champion been for so long?

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In that time he has fought 5 times, not a single one of those fights has come against another champion

He can't force the other champions to fight him. If Wilder isn't a great fighter, like so many trolls here claim, why aren't the other champions aggressively pursuing him? The facts don't support your premise.

Wilder's team desperately tried to get Parker in the ring earlier this year, but Bob Arum blocked the fight.

Wilder would like to fight Joshua ASAP, but Joshua doesn't want to fight him until late 2018. Joshua is the A-side, so Wilder will have to wait.

But to question Wilder's desire to unify is ludicrous.