How to fix the Judging issues.

[DJR005]

When I fought as an amateur there were a few fights I saw at Golden Gloves and Olympics where one guy got totally screwed. I have seen myself how difficult it is for some judges to see what happens during an inside exchange or any exchange for that matter when the ref and at least 1 fighter whose back is to the judge making it difficult for them to gauge who landed the harder shots. I'm not saying that's the only problem w boxing judges but if we would let them watch on TV monitors without any commentary that would certainly be a step in right direction.

But no clue how to fix this bigger issue known as the shady side of it such as Managers/Promoters having an influence on judges ( which for those of you not aware has been proven on numerous occasions s w Don King, Top Rank although it was t Arum who was caught but a high up in company. And I have no doubt that Golden Boy is pulling some shady maneuvers as well specially for Canelo. Not saying Canelos fault but IMO he got a gift vs Laura, somehow won or at least was a draw on one scorecard vs Floyd, and GGG fight I had GGG winning but I'm ok w a draw however we all can agree Canelo didn't win 10 damn rds)

If anyone has any ideas or agree or disagree w my thread plz comment.

[Lou Cipher]

When I fought as an amateur there were a few fights I saw at Golden Gloves and Olympics where one guy got totally screwed. I have seen myself how difficult it is for some judges to see what happens during an inside exchange or any exchange for that matter when the ref and at least 1 fighter whose back is to the judge making it difficult for them to gauge who landed the harder shots. I'm not saying that's the only problem w boxing judges but if we would let them watch on TV monitors without any commentary that would certainly be a step in right direction.

But no clue how to fix this bigger issue known as the shady side of it such as Managers/Promoters having an influence on judges ( which for those of you not aware has been proven on numerous occasions s w Don King, Top Rank although it was t Arum who was caught but a high up in company. And I have no doubt that Golden Boy is pulling some shady maneuvers as well specially for Canelo. Not saying Canelos fault but IMO he got a gift vs Laura, somehow won or at least was a draw on one scorecard vs Floyd, and GGG fight I had GGG winning but I'm ok w a draw however we all can agree Canelo didn't win 10 damn rds)

If anyone has any ideas or agree or disagree w my thread plz comment.

If they can't fix bias and incompetence in the legal judging system theres no way to fix in sports.

The only true way is to eliminate judges. In the old days the ref was the judge. I don't like that either. They have to come up with some kind of sophisticated version of compubox or let fighters fight until one quits or gets a ten count. That's really the only way. Let the fighters decide when theyve had enough and if we want to kill ourselves in the ring to prove a point so be it.

[DJR005]

If they can't fix bias and incompetence in the legal judging system theres no way to fix in sports.

The only true way is to eliminate judges. In the old days the ref was the judge. I don't like that either. They have to come up with some kind of sophisticated version of compubox or let fighters fight until one quits or gets a ten count. That's really the only way. Let the fighters decide when theyve had enough and if we want to kill ourselves in the ring to prove a point so be it.

That's actually a great point

[Eff Pandas]

I figured it out.

Keep everything the same as it is now, but before a judge takes a job he/she is told that every 100 rounds they scored they will be competing with other judges on accuracy with pundits (who'll be judging the fights after the fact) & the lowest 10 judges in % accuracy vs the pundits pool outcome will be put into a drawing where 3 people are selected to have a finger or toe cut off (which we'll also have a drawing for for extra excitement). You can continue judging until you get 3 fingers or toes cut off.

[sparkz2112]

Maybe two judges have to agree about a round for it to count? Would have to change the 10-point criteria I would think, and might result in more draws, but hopefully less oblivious scores? Just my opinion

[siablo14]

Suspend judges with ridiculous scores for a specific time period and don't let them judge the big events..

[THC]

For decisions, score knockdowns only. Remove the subjective aspect from the sport.

Use judges to overturn a missed call by the referee. TV viewers and event attendees can monitor the same tape replay reviewed by the judges.

Runners who pitty patty for 12 rounds will amass only draws or lose to anyone willing to go for it. Only fighters who commit to their punches will have any chance of earning a victory.

[robertavila777]

Maybe they could write a brief explanation as to why they scored their card the way they did.

[xhiddenx87]

I figured it out.

Keep everything the same as it is now, but before a judge takes a job he/she is told that every 100 rounds they scored they will be competing with other judges on accuracy with pundits (who'll be judging the fights after the fact) & the lowest 10 judges in % accuracy vs the pundits pool outcome will be put into a drawing where 3 people are selected to have a finger or toe cut off (which we'll also have a drawing for for extra excitement). You can continue judging until you get 3 fingers or toes cut off.

Give this man all your points and Green K please.

[sparkz2112]

If you only score KDs, then Pacquiao vs Mosley would be scored a draw. I think you're on to something with the whole "remove the subjective" element, but I don't see how this exact idea helps. There's plenty of dominant fighters that take a flash KD while dominating a fight.