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    #31
    Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
    Or you can look at this way... 31 yrs old - only took up boxing 11 years ago - fighting his second top-3 ranked HW during his reign (Stiverne, Ortiz) ... and two others reached the top 10 after they lost to him (Duhaupas, Molina).

    Haymon's most protected? Stop trolling. If he was protected he would be fighting his mandatory (Stiverne) instead of the most feared man in the heavyweight division.
    most feared man in boxing.. seriously? 38 yr old fat Cuban who went 12 RDS with Malik freaking Scott 2 fights ago!!

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      #32
      Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
      i wouldn't call that getting KTFO, it was an awful cut. but vitali was still there. szpilka got KTFO for example
      Okay let me rephrase then. Vitali got TKTFO!!!

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        #33
        Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
        You better not be one of them clowns defending Kovalev's decision to pull out of a fight against Stevenson that he HAD to fight because he was Stevenson's mandatory. You better not be defending him for pulling out of the purse bid either and using that as an excuse to duck Stevenson.

        Also, let me not catch you defending Canelo for dropping his belt to avoid GGG even though, in your words, 'HE HAD TO' fight GGG because it was his mandatory challenger.

        Don't let me catch you giving Brook credit for fighting Spence either, since you know, he had no choice because Spence was the mandatory.

        If you fall into one of those three categories then you know what a hypocrite you are right?

        Since that is your stance on the Wilder
        just facts - Wilder had to fight Povetkin in Russia or give up his belt... simple fact. Has nothing to do with above.

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          #34
          Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
          lol!! Molina and Duhappas top 10?? That's hilarious!! B4 or after fighting Wilder!
          I'm not a voter at TBRB but both were ranked top 10 for a short time after losing to Wilder. Duhaupas after knocking out Robert Helenius and Molina after knocking out Tomasz Adamek.

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            #35
            Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
            just facts - Wilder had to fight Povetkin in Russia or give up his belt... simple fact. Has nothing to do with above.
            Humour me then. What was your stance in each one of those scenarios?

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              #36
              Meh, its a good fight. I look forward to it. I don't think Wilder is afraid of any other fighter but I do think his handlers have guided him through some relatively soft opposition. Ortiz is old but the heavyweights can sustain careers longer than lighter weights. That being said, Ortiz hasn't looked like the "bogeyman" since he beat down Bryant Jennings. Ortiz is still skilled and dangerous. Wilder is a fighter who I believe has the potential to beat anyone and lose to many due to his concussive power and his raw skills and untested chin.

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                #37
                Isnt this the same Wilder today that said Joshua best win was old Klitchko on his last legs? But he himself wants full credit defeating an older guy ?

                Ortiz is about 50 ,what do you want us to call him ? IF you win you defeated an EXTREMELY old fighter who you should even if hes top 3 .
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 09-20-2017, 10:43 PM.

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                  #38
                  It's would be the best win on his resume.. Ortiz is no ***in boogeyman, ffs it's a nice story to narrate the kids.. guy is a top 10 HW and his last 2 opponents have been journeymen against whom he looked average at best ..
                  He was on the undercard of GGg-Lemieux and KOed a bum from Argentina and HBO commentators were like "oh what a monster!"

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
                    Okay let me rephrase then. Vitali got TKTFO!!!
                    come on....if you ever saw the fight, you would know that Vitali was ahead at the time of the stoppage. Credit to Lennox, but he was on his way to losing. He refused a rematch and retired.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post
                      come on....if you ever saw the fight, you would know that Vitali was ahead at the time of the stoppage. Credit to Lennox, but he was on his way to losing. He refused a rematch and retired.
                      Nah that's just a lame excuse man. Fact is Lennox won the fight by sniping that eye to death.

                      Provodnikov had Algieri in a similar situation with the eye, he kept trying to snipe that eye for the rest of the fight but Algieri skillfully avoided further damage to the eye throughout the rest of the fight.

                      So either Lennox had the skill to snipe that eye to death when he realised that it damaged, or Vitali didn't have the defensive acumen to avoid further damage to the eye.

                      From what I saw it was both. So enough with the lame excuses. Vitali got TKFO, end of story.

                      No ifs, buts, coulds will change anything because that's all just make belief.

                      Anyway Wilder vs Ortiz should be a great fight for as long as it lasts. Someone getting KTFO though that's for sure.

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