Despite this being a very close fight one thing is clear Golovkin was overatted

[nubianpiye]

All of the talk of Golovkin being an ATG (he might be) and one of the best ever middles (He definitely isn't) has to go out of the window to me he arguably lost his lat two fights. As soon as he's stepped his comp up he's not looked like this unstoppable crusher.

He's still very good a talented fighter but one of the best ever at middle? No.

[Mr Objecitivity]

He has clearly been the best middleweight of his era and the past decade. So ultimately, that's the only objective thing we can verify. Things like ATG an being the best ever are all totally subjective because how are you going to objectively compare boxers from totally different eras and rank them? So as far as I'm concerned, being the best of one's own era is sufficient enough to be classified as an ATG.

Also, ANY boxer will look inferior against better quality opposition than lesser quality opposition. So GGG might have not looked AS good whilst stepping up, but neither have any of the past ATG's when they also stepped up most of the time.

[Kigali]

All of the talk of Golovkin being an ATG (he might be) and one of the best ever middles (He definitely isn't) has to go out of the window to me he arguably lost his lat two fights. As soon as he's stepped his comp up he's not looked like this unstoppable crusher.

He's still very good a talented fighter but one of the best ever at middle? No.

Not as overrated as Canelito.

[nubianpiye]

Canelo moved up from welter and on my card won a close decision in a fight that could have went either way Glolovkin is overrated calling him P4P 1 or an ATG is a joke.

[nubianpiye]

He has clearly been the best middleweight of his era and the past decade. So ultimately, that's the only objective thing we can verify. Things like ATG an being the best ever are all totally subjective because how are you going to objectively compare boxers from totally different eras and rank them? So as far as I'm concerned, being the best of one's own era is sufficient enough to be classified as an ATG.

Also, ANY boxer will look inferior against better quality opposition than lesser quality opposition. So GGG might have not looked AS good whilst stepping up, but neither have any of the past ATG's when they also stepped up most of the time.

good post well worded.

[Vlad_]

Canelo's footwork was definitely underrated. The guy runs back away from a fight like a true jefe!

[nubianpiye]

Canelo's footwork was definitely underrated. The guy runs back away from a fight like a true jefe!

Think this is a non sense post he landed the bigger harder shots.

[Vlad_]

Think this is a non sense post he landed the bigger harder shots.

Mm hmm, and then he proceeded to run away from GGG's "weak" jabs...

[ironmt]

How does that affect Canelo's status being he couldn't beat an overrated fighter?

[nubianpiye]

Mm hmm, and then he proceeded to run away from GGG's "weak" jabs...

who said Golovkins jabs were weak? they weren't why are you making a big deal about the use of lateral movement? is it not a part of boxing? Lateral movement to set traps and reset is not running.