Comments Thread For: Legacies Remain Pristine Even When Champs Go on Too Long

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By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Think about some recent greats in the major sports. Michael Jordan in basketball. Wayne Gretzky in hockey. Brett Favre in football. Upon hearing their names, chances are good that the first mental images conjured are those of Jordan clad in black and red, Gretzky in copper and blue and Favre in green and gold...
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[iamboxing]

Ali's loss to Holmes and Berbick doesn't diminish his legacy, same as Roy's terrible loss streak after Tarver. They were both recognised as great way before those fights. The difference is Mayweather's greatness is still disputed long after he retired because of his lacklustre and often dull performances. Neutral boxing fans don't remember him as fondly as they do Ali and RJJ and other ATGs. A loss against a 0 boxing experience fighter will just open him to ridicule for the rest of his life because his legacy doesn't stand the test of time.

[Damn Wicked]

I think many boxing fans have changed their view of Roy Jones after he was KO'd by Tarver, and with every successive knockout loss he suffered after that, people had more and more doubts about his greatness or lack of greatness. Jones was an athletic marvel but every man can be beat if he is unlucky enough to run into that foe. Some fighters are lucky enough to avoid that fate , or maybe they select opponents that are safe, at a time when their opponents have shown vulnerabilities. I give Roy credit for having the fighting spirit to fight on after such devastating losses. It may not be smart but it shows he's a true warrior.

[aboutfkntime]

Ali's loss to Holmes and Berbick doesn't diminish his legacy, same as Roy's terrible loss streak after Tarver. They were both recognised as great way before those fights. The difference is Mayweather's greatness is still disputed long after he retired because of his lacklustre and often dull performances. Neutral boxing fans don't remember him as fondly as they do Ali and RJJ and other ATGs. A loss against a 0 boxing experience fighter will just open him to ridicule for the rest of his life because his legacy doesn't stand the test of time.

no, that is bullshht

neither of those things are qualifying criteria for greatness

it is..... who you beat, with consideration given to when/how

nothing more

[aboutfkntime]

when a fighter leaves his prime, the clock should stop ticking

everything after that is a bonus, and the losses are less-relevant

[Robbie Barrett]

I think many boxing fans have changed their view of Roy Jones after he was KO'd by Tarver, and with every successive knockout loss he suffered after that, people had more and more doubts about his greatness or lack of greatness. Jones was an athletic marvel but every man can be beat if he is unlucky enough to run into that foe. Some fighters are lucky enough to avoid that fate , or maybe they select opponents that are safe, at a time when their opponents have shown vulnerabilities. I give Roy credit for having the fighting spirit to fight on after such devastating losses. It may not be smart but it shows he's a true warrior.

Roy Jones did look like superman. When he lost a step it exposed his weaknesses. Tarver was his kryptonite.

[ironmt]

when a fighter leaves his prime, the clock should stop ticking

everything after that is a bonus, and the losses are less-relevant

When would you say a fighter Is In his prime? Unfortunately, the clock doesn't stop ticking. If Floyd should somehow lose to Mcgregor, will that effect his legacy?

[Thraxox]

When would you say a fighter Is In his prime? Unfortunately, the clock doesn't stop ticking. If Floyd should somehow lose to Mcgregor, will that effect his legacy?

I always hate when people say Roy Jpnes ruined his legacy.

[Thraxox]

Completely agree with the article.ver nice job on explaining.

[ironmt]

no, that is bullshht

neither of those things are qualifying criteria for greatness

it is..... who you beat, with consideration given to when/how

nothing more

Since the criteria for greatness Is who you beat with consideration to when and how, what are Floyd's best wins and how many were In their prime?