Comments Thread For: Roach: Not Sure If Pacquiao is Mad at Me - I Haven't Been Paid

[aboutfkntime]

ironmt talked ****

then, he went AWOL

so, who will defend Manny's honor by replying to those posts?

[ironmt]

You have clearly already lost. Next time try and debate In a civil manner as opposed to an arrogant a$$hole. Is there anything else you think you can beat me at?

The following are quotes from other members of the board.

"Not sure I agree with every one of your "facts" but that was a decent smackdown you delivered to a biased fanboy."

That was some smackdown you give him man.

Wow. good stuff IronMT. That got aboutfuvkntime roasting now..

The boy is too emotionally invested in Floyd Mayweather.


Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.

“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........



I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?



You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............ From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.

Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.

Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.

Fact.......While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.

Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.

Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.

Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight

Fact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.

Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.

Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.

Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.

Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.

Fact........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.

Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.

Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)

Fact.........Floyd claims he Isn't racist, "It's total disrespect and today he came out and did it again," Mayweather said. "I don't care if it's white women, black women, white men, black men, Asian, Latina or Latino -- you don't disrespect people. Yet says the following, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

Who has this man legitimately beat that was a prime fighter that he didn't force a catch weight on or who wasn't weight drained?

The two fights that you claim make Mayweather's resume equivalent to Pacquiao's(Canelo and Marquez) were fought at catch weights that benefited Floyd. Yes, the Marquez fight benefited Floyd being that It was his first fight above 135 pounds. So again, who on Floyd's resume tops Morales and Barrera?

Stating that the fight fell through due to testing Is beyond ridiculous. Floyd wanted nothing to do with a prime Pacquiao and his very own comments justify that fact.

Floyd's excuses

1. Manny isn't good enough
2. PPV numbers
3. Pacquiao has lost and I'm undefeated
4. I was dominating in the 90s. Where was Pacquiao in the 90s?
5. He fights my leftovers
6. Bob Arum
7. I'm concerned for my safety and family
8. Pacquiao wont take the drug test
9. 40 million flat fee
10. Leonard Ellerbe Denies Any Negotiations Ever Took Place
11. Mayweather Says Pacquiao Must Be on PEDs Because of His Rise Up the Scale. Floyd fought at the same weight at the same age as Pacquiao and has had a nearly identical rise up the scale. So If Pacquiao was on PEDS wouldn't that mean Floyd was also?

Number 11 Is particularly telling. There Is no way of blaming one unless you are willing to point the finger at the other.

Mayweather has gone down the EXACT same road as Pacquiao. Mayweather started at the EXACT same weight Pacquiao started at when they were both the same age. In other words, they both fought from 106 pounds up to 154 pounds.

Think about that, It pretty much puts an end to the PEDS debate, other than Floyd Injecting PEDS Into his hands.

Below Is your responses to the above provided facts. The responses are comical yet shows that you had absolutely no clue how to respond to the facts provided to you. When someone resorts to calling names as their primary response, they have clearly lost

and btw, pac-trash has SEVEN LOSSES !!

no, wait..... that would be 8 or 9 losses if you count what REALLY happened in the Marquez fights

I will say it again..... SEVEN LOSSES !!

you are a dirty lying piece-of ****

a dirty lying piece of pac-****

and listen to the rest of the pac-f@gs chime in.....

oh yea bro, you sure did tell him

you dopey inbred pacstain......

you fkn moron

so what ****-for-brains

you ***wit

listen you dopey inbred

you are a fool

just to prove what a pac-f@g you are.....

what the fk was pu55y-Pacquiao scared of ?

who cares- again

so what, fights don't pan out all the time This comment actually buried your entire argument and you are the one who made It.

so fkn what

you fkn F@GGOT

who cares you crybaby b1tch

what a dishonest piece-of-****

***-tard..... this is what Marquez did to Pacquiao.....Why are you bringing up Marquez when we are discussing Floyd and Manny?

EIGHT LOSSES !!

a silly pacf@g is running around telling lies, again. Not really, just things you don"t want to hear.

you got exposed. Actually you got that mixed up. I think you look like you are the one who was exposed.

fk'ing loser !!

ironmt talked ****

Your replies above do not come across as someone who won or liked what they heard. So, once again, Is there anything else you think you can beat me at?

[Spoon23]

Really? Because so far everyone that has commented has said that you were smacked around like the b!tch that you are with the following facts.

If I am a liar as you claim, feel free to refute any of the facts I provided you.

Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.

“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........

//krikya360.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27459

I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?



You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............ From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.

Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.

Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.

Fact........While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.

Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.

Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.

Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight

Fact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.

Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.

Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.

Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.

Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.

Fact........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.

Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.

Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)

Fact.........Floyd claims he Isn't racist, "It's total disrespect and today he came out and did it again," Mayweather said. "I don't care if it's white women, black women, white men, black men, Asian, Latina or Latino -- you don't disrespect people. Yet says the following, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

Who has this man legitimately beat that was a prime fighter that he didn't force a catch weight on or who wasn't weight drained?

The two fights that you claim make Mayweather's resume equivalent to Pacquiao's(Canelo and Marquez) were fought at catch weights that benefited Floyd. Yes, the Marquez fight benefited Floyd being that It was his first fight above 135 pounds. So again, who on Floyd's resume tops Morales and Barrera?

Stating that the fight fell through due to testing Is beyond ridiculous. Floyd wanted nothing to do with a prime Pacquiao and his very own comments justify that fact.

Floyd's excuses

1. Manny isn't good enough
2. PPV numbers
3. Pacquiao has lost and I'm undefeated
4. I was dominating in the 90s. Where was Pacquiao in the 90s?
5. He fights my leftovers
6. Bob Arum
7. I'm concerned for my safety and family
8. Pacquiao wont take the drug test
9. 40 million flat fee
10. Leonard Ellerbe Denies Any Negotiations Ever Took Place
11. Mayweather Says Pacquiao Must Be on PEDs Because of His Rise Up the Scale. Floyd fought at the same weight at the same age as Pacquiao and has had a nearly identical rise up the scale. So If Pacquiao was on PEDS wouldn't that mean Floyd was also?

Number 11 Is particularly telling. There Is no way of blaming one unless you are willing to point the finger at the other.

Mayweather has gone down the EXACT same road as Pacquiao. Mayweather started at the EXACT same weight Pacquiao started at when they were both the same age. In other words, they both fought from 106 pounds up to 154 pounds. Interesting Isn't It?

Think about that, It pretty much puts an end to the PEDS debate, other than Floyd Injecting PEDS Into his hands.

Are you replying In hopes that the above facts get pushed back a few pages so that no one will see them? No worries, I won't allow that to happen.


You just said the following...............so what, fights don't pan out all the time


My reply that ends the game.............You just put the final nail In your own coffin with that comment. Your entire argument has been that Manny refused a 14 day cut off and he did during Initial negotiations. He came back 4-5 months later and agreed with all of Floyd's demands Including a 14 day cutoff. So wouldn't the first round of negotiations fall under the "so what, fights don't pan out all the time' category?

It's over. You were crushed with the facts I provided and now you are harming yourself further with your own words.


LETS LET THE MEMBERS HERE DECIDE.

Oh my, you just obliterated aboutfuvkn times nothingburgers. Your facts are spot on. You just biatch slapped him all the way to Floyd's anus lmao

You really know you are winning an argument when your fellow debater can't address the facts you just mentioned.

# you got game brah! Aboutfuvkntime about to cry lololololol

[Spoon23]

You just put the final nail In your own coffin with that comment. Your entire argument has been that Manny refused a 14 day cut off and he did during Initial negotiations. He came back 4-5 months later and agreed with all of Floyd's demands Including a 14 day cutoff. So wouldn't the first round of negotiations fall under the "so what, fights don't pan out all the time' category?

It's over. You were crushed with the facts I provided and now you are harming yourself further with your own words.

IronMT, just annihilated this emotionally invested floyd douche bag lmao

Bravo!! Magnificent!! Superb!!

[Elroy The Great]

You have clearly already lost. Next time try and debate In a civil manner as opposed to an arrogant a$$hole. Is there anything else you think you can beat me at?

The following are quotes from other members of the board.

"Not sure I agree with every one of your "facts" but that was a decent smackdown you delivered to a biased fanboy."

That was some smackdown you give him man.

Wow. good stuff IronMT. That got aboutfuvkntime roasting now..

The boy is too emotionally invested in Floyd Mayweather.


Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.

“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........

//krikya360.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27459

I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?



You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............ From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.

Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.

Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.

Fact.......While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.

Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.

Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.

Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight

Fact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.

Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.

Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.

Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.

Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.

Fact........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.

Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.

Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)

Fact.........Floyd claims he Isn't racist, "It's total disrespect and today he came out and did it again," Mayweather said. "I don't care if it's white women, black women, white men, black men, Asian, Latina or Latino -- you don't disrespect people. Yet says the following, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

Who has this man legitimately beat that was a prime fighter that he didn't force a catch weight on or who wasn't weight drained?

The two fights that you claim make Mayweather's resume equivalent to Pacquiao's(Canelo and Marquez) were fought at catch weights that benefited Floyd. Yes, the Marquez fight benefited Floyd being that It was his first fight above 135 pounds. So again, who on Floyd's resume tops Morales and Barrera?

Stating that the fight fell through due to testing Is beyond ridiculous. Floyd wanted nothing to do with a prime Pacquiao and his very own comments justify that fact.

Floyd's excuses

1. Manny isn't good enough
2. PPV numbers
3. Pacquiao has lost and I'm undefeated
4. I was dominating in the 90s. Where was Pacquiao in the 90s?
5. He fights my leftovers
6. Bob Arum
7. I'm concerned for my safety and family
8. Pacquiao wont take the drug test
9. 40 million flat fee
10. Leonard Ellerbe Denies Any Negotiations Ever Took Place
11. Mayweather Says Pacquiao Must Be on PEDs Because of His Rise Up the Scale. Floyd fought at the same weight at the same age as Pacquiao and has had a nearly identical rise up the scale. So If Pacquiao was on PEDS wouldn't that mean Floyd was also?

PTI ....

what do people have against FUNCTIONING links

yeah, yeah ''i cant be bothered, google it yourself !!! as you can see, i hate proving my point !!!!''

Oh my, you just obliterated aboutfuvkn times nothingburgers. Your facts are spot on. You just biatch slapped him all the way to Floyd's anus lmao

You really know you are winning an argument when your fellow debater can't address the facts you just mentioned.

# you got game brah! Aboutfuvkntime about to cry lololololol

wow, one may hater/pac fan agreeing with another. miracles will never cease.

[Don Mac]

Roach might wonder if Manny has run out of cash.
He puts his money into multitude silly business ventures like hotels and restaurants, trusts everyone far too much, gives bundles of cash away instead of using charity donations as a tax break etc. He has had terrible tax advice plus this huge entourage and family to support. And the political position, that doesnt come for free, in asia its all greasing palms to get there.

And at the same time he's increasing his chances of long term brain damage, stuff that isnt noticeable now but will be in a few years.
If you want to be President of your country, learn to look after your health and your finances.

[MoneyMatters]

Just saw this post regarding their weights

[Spoon23]

Just saw this post regarding their weights

Nice find. It tells you who's weight was on the rise more than anyone else. Floyd seems to be in a hormone spurt more than anyone else lol

[Dosumpthin]

You have clearly already lost. Next time try and debate In a civil manner as opposed to an arrogant a$$hole. Is there anything else you think you can beat me at?

The following are quotes from other members of the board.

"Not sure I agree with every one of your "facts" but that was a decent smackdown you delivered to a biased fanboy."

That was some smackdown you give him man.

Wow. good stuff IronMT. That got aboutfuvkntime roasting now..

The boy is too emotionally invested in Floyd Mayweather.


Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.

“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........

//krikya360.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27459

I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?



You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............ From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.

Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.

Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.

Fact.......While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.

Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.

Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.

Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight

Fact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.

Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.

Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.

Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.

Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.

Fact........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.

Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.

Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)

Fact.........Floyd claims he Isn't racist, "It's total disrespect and today he came out and did it again," Mayweather said. "I don't care if it's white women, black women, white men, black men, Asian, Latina or Latino -- you don't disrespect people. Yet says the following, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

Who has this man legitimately beat that was a prime fighter that he didn't force a catch weight on or who wasn't weight drained?

The two fights that you claim make Mayweather's resume equivalent to Pacquiao's(Canelo and Marquez) were fought at catch weights that benefited Floyd. Yes, the Marquez fight benefited Floyd being that It was his first fight above 135 pounds. So again, who on Floyd's resume tops Morales and Barrera?

Stating that the fight fell through due to testing Is beyond ridiculous. Floyd wanted nothing to do with a prime Pacquiao and his very own comments justify that fact.

Floyd's excuses

1. Manny isn't good enough
2. PPV numbers
3. Pacquiao has lost and I'm undefeated
4. I was dominating in the 90s. Where was Pacquiao in the 90s?
5. He fights my leftovers
6. Bob Arum
7. I'm concerned for my safety and family
8. Pacquiao wont take the drug test
9. 40 million flat fee
10. Leonard Ellerbe Denies Any Negotiations Ever Took Place
11. Mayweather Says Pacquiao Must Be on PEDs Because of His Rise Up the Scale. Floyd fought at the same weight at the same age as Pacquiao and has had a nearly identical rise up the scale. So If Pacquiao was on PEDS wouldn't that mean Floyd was also?

Number 11 Is particularly telling. There Is no way of blaming one unless you are willing to point the finger at the other.

Mayweather has gone down the EXACT same road as Pacquiao. Mayweather started at the EXACT same weight Pacquiao started at when they were both the same age. In other words, they both fought from 106 pounds up to 154 pounds.

Think about that, It pretty much puts an end to the PEDS debate, other than Floyd Injecting PEDS Into his hands.

Below Is your responses to the above provided facts. The responses are comical yet shows that you had absolutely no clue how to respond to the facts provided to you. When someone resorts to calling names as their primary response, they have clearly lost

and btw, pac-trash has SEVEN LOSSES !!

no, wait..... that would be 8 or 9 losses if you count what REALLY happened in the Marquez fights

I will say it again..... SEVEN LOSSES !!

you are a dirty lying piece-of ****

a dirty lying piece of pac-****

and listen to the rest of the pac-f@gs chime in.....

oh yea bro, you sure did tell him

you dopey inbred pacstain......

you fkn moron

so what ****-for-brains

you ***wit

listen you dopey inbred

you are a fool

just to prove what a pac-f@g you are.....

what the fk was pu55y-Pacquiao scared of ?

who cares- again

so what, fights don't pan out all the time This comment actually buried your entire argument and you are the one who made It.

so fkn what

you fkn F@GGOT

who cares you crybaby b1tch

what a dishonest piece-of-****

***-tard..... this is what Marquez did to Pacquiao.....Why are you bringing up Marquez when we are discussing Floyd and Manny?

EIGHT LOSSES !!

a silly pacf@g is running around telling lies, again. Not really, just things you don"t want to hear.

you got exposed. Actually you got that mixed up. I think you look like you are the one who was exposed.

fk'ing loser !!

ironmt talked ****

Your replies above do not come across as someone who won or liked what they heard. So, once again, Is there anything else you think you can beat me at?

Lol seeking validation from SPOON?
You lose points. If SPOON cosigns one of your post, you're doing something wrong.



Nothing you said in your biased rant indicates Floyd used PEDS or exonerated Mannys drug history.

FACT : Manny admitted to using banned substances 7 years later after winning a defamation suit and avoiding blood test.

You can't dispute this. Period.

[ironmt]

PTI ....

what do people have against FUNCTIONING links

yeah, yeah ''i cant be bothered, google it yourself !!! as you can see, i hate proving my point !!!!''



wow, one may hater/pac fan agreeing with another. miracles will never cease.

These Links work fine.

Link to Pacquio agreeing to a 14 day cutoff



Link showing that the judge ordered Mayweather to pay $114,000 for failing to answer question from Pacquiao's Attorney's.