Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Horn Investigation: WBO Backs Scores, Explains Why

[aboutfkntime]

Pac outlanded Horn in every round except for the 6th! Think about what I just wrote there...

Pac outlanded Horn - 10 to 9 in the First round (I still gave it to Horn)

Pac outlanded Horn 19 to 8 in the 12th round LOL.

In the 11th round Horn landed 3 punches and Pac landed 10.

In every round I didn't mention, Pac outlanded Horn by a significant number.

I'm just not sure if landing punches matters anymore in boxing. I guess because Manny was bleeding from a headbutt that means Horn wins the fight.

If you believe Pacquiao outlanded Horn in the first you weren't paying attention. Go watch it again and tell me how it was even possible to have Pac outlanding Horn. Go Watch the 11th too where compubox said Horn only landed 3, in one sequence he has Pac against the ropes and lands more than 3 just in that.

After watching them forget about compubox in this fight. It was a joke.

the only two things that are clear.....

compubox is ******ed, and so is anyone who thought otherwise

MisanthropicNY, learn how to score a fight

[aboutfkntime]

If anything was biased it was compubox. I just don't see how pac won his fans have always been biased

compubox scores are ******ed..... but years back, compubox scores were beyond ******ed, the average punches landed were MUCH higher

those figures have dropped (sometimes consistently, sometimes inconsistently) over the last decade-or-so..... but compubox used to count anything that hit gloves forearms shoulders..... they were even worse than ****-**** Lampley, their punch scores were absurd

compubox does not account for ring-generalship, how a fight unfolds, bodywork, and much of the standard criteria used to score/judge a fight..... it doesn't even account for defense when they count glove-shots etc

casual fans are ******ed for not being aware of that

if you need to check compubox to tell you who won a fight, then you need help, LITERALLY

[PunchyPotorff]

WBO is a joke. The last thing they were going to do is admit there was corruption or incompetence in their fight. This is like when the NFL did an internal investigation on Roger goddell during the domestic violence scandal. Of course the tapes that were sent and leaked by TMZ that implicated Goddell werent found in the investigation. There was no smoking gun found because the NFL didn't want one found. WBO wants this to go away not find evidence. Arum has too much power with the WBO it would look terrible for Arum and WBO if they did.

Exactly. Truer words never spoken.

[OgTripleOg]

arum and the wbo is corrupted. people who believe horn won this fight are gullible sheep or just straight up pac haters.

[PunchyPotorff]

Wow Pacauiao fans are so salty that boxing literally has to break it down to you haha! Sad. He lost and looked horrible doing so accept it!

Sez the ZERO Rep Power Master DA Award winner of the month... SlowSon.

[basegod]

WTF y r so many people ****-riding Horn. he's a douche and a half and he lost wide. even if u think the compubox #s are bullbird, u couldnt have thought that Horn was landing much more than Pac, and Pac done re-arranged Horn's face and definitely landed the harder punches.

[Manic Shot]

Manny should retire, fcuk the rematch!

[ironmt]

Compubox Is only correct In certain circumstances. Mark my words, compubox will be used In the future to justify certain fighters wins, just as It has In the past.

[DominiBox]

Not many thought Horn won.


Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn

Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn

Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn

Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won

Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114

Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won

Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won

Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won

Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won

Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao

Mike Coppinger (Ring ****zine) – Pacquiao won

Michael Rosenthal (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan ******** (Ring ****zine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao

Doug Fischer (Ring ****zine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao

Tom Gray (Ring ****zine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”

Mike Baca II (Ring ****zine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”

Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won

Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)

Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)

Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won

T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)

Salvador Rodriguez (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao

Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao

Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao

Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”

Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”

BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao

Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won

Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao

DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao

Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao

Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed

Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”

Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114

Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)

Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)

Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn

Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao

Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”

Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)

Patrick Connor (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won

Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao

Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao

Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed

Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao

Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won

How dare you! Bringing those facts in the middle of so many Pacquiao haters. Let them live this moment of joy.

[Strategic1]

The 5 anonymous judges? Please provide the names ..otherwise this is BS... they can randomly select 5 guys.. and tell them to score it a certain way.

They're probably from Australia, New Zealand, UK, South Africa and ummm whatever...BS .. this is fixed by Arum and the WBO.

Name the judges