Great fight any way, ful off action.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThere was no PED testing for this fight. Why aren't you saying more about that?
Let it go Big Dunn. This was a great fight for boxing. If you can't even enjoy a good scrap. You cannot see the true essence of boxing, but you only see PEDS lolLast edited by Spoon23; 07-02-2017, 08:45 AM.
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Originally posted by harwri008 View PostI spent 25 years in the US military, I don't have to prove my manhood to someone on the internet.
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The 117-111 scorecard was trash.
Thought Pacquiao won, but it was close and he looked every bit of 38 years old.
Horn definitely showed up for this one. I guess they're talking rematch? I'm ready for Manny to hang them up personally.
Horn would lose badly to Spence, the top dog at 147. I could see him making a good scrap with Garcia, Matthysse or somebody like that.
Curious to see if Horn makes it on to another big fight at welter that isn't just a Pacquiao rematch. I'm not sure a rematch with them goes much different. But Manny likely picks up a decision win with some different judges.
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostI had it 114-113 for Horn as well. I'm a big Pacquiao fan but he looked like **** all night, barely landed the straight left clean all night except the 9th round, and after two flurries to end that round he was spent the rest of the fight and gave away the final three rounds to Horn, after already failing to take control the first 8 rounds. You can't give away the last three rounds, and the first round, and split the middle rounds or maybe win them 5-3, and expect to win. His stamina is gone to **** and his style relies on high punch output, especially at welterweight where his opponents are too big to hurt with single shots. If he's going to fight with such low punch output, he needs to move down in weight where he can hurt guys with single shots.
I think everyone was fooled by the commentary, just like Kovalev-Ward. Atlas dominated the commentary and gave Pacquiao almost every close round. He ignored clean shots by Horn and kept saying Pacquiao was landing clean and Horn wasn't even when Horn kept connecting the right to the head all night and outworked Pacquiao to the body as well. Pacquiao's left looked old and just a tiny bit slow all night so he either just missed Horn or hit him with glancing shots, very rarely did he catch Horn flush. Atlas was imagining all the clean shots Pacquiao was landing, because he wasn't landing clean anymore than Horn was, and Horn outworked him.
Horn did use his head a ton though. Not as bad or intentionally as Ward, but he fought pretty dirty. Just in terms of punches landed though, compubox is complete fiction, and I do believe Horn outlanded Pacquiao. Pacquiao looked bad against Vargas but the commentators shilled for him then too. He did beat Vargas, mostly because he finally caught Vargas and knocked him down and then took over after that. But if he hadn't dropped Vargas he might have lost that fight too, because before that moment that fight looked a lot like this, with Pacquiao barely throwing punches and struggling to catch Vargas clean because he looked slow.
He's old. This was no robbery at all. You could give it to Pacquiao close but he was far from dominant.
Thats the thing, it was not a "dominant" win. Not at all, because he didnt knock him out or leave him more bloodied than he already was. It wasnt "dominant," but it was a VERY CLEAR decision for Pac. Look, hes 38, has slowed a little and doesnt seem to have that knock out pumch right now....but if you really think Horn could have possibly won on the cards youre way off. Youre right kt wasnt "dominant," in the boxing sense of the word, but it was just plain obvious and clear
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