Comments Thread For: Photos: Kell Brook, Errol Spence - Face To Face at Final Presser

[Dolemite]

Okay so what does one call somebody who squeezes down to the lowest weight possible with out missing weight and then fight in a division that they naturally weight 20-30lbs heavier than? Canelo was too big to be fighting at 154-155. Everyone criticised him for it including myself. I'm just wondering why some fighters get a pass while others don't.

If they make 147 at the weight in, they call them a welterweight.

[Bronx23]

Brook has stated, as spence has, that he wants thurman next.

even if he loses, it seems amir khan has come around on that fight, so i don't see either guy moving up after this fight...win or lose.

You're right I forgot about Ole glass jaw. I can see him staying at 147 for khan for sure. God only knows how long Thurman is gonna be out but I suspect that a fight between him and Kell or Spence won't happen anytime soon. I don't think Kell is gonna want to keep killing himself to make 147 much longer though.

Still though that doesn't answer my question as to why it's okay for some guys told drop 20-30lbs and fight smaller guys. But it's not okay for others. My opinion it's wrong no matter Who's doing it.

[Dolemite]

Okay so what does one call somebody who squeezes down to the lowest weight possible with out missing weight and then fight in a division that they naturally weight 20-30lbs heavier than? Canelo was too big to be fighting at 154-155. Everyone criticised him for it including myself. I'm just wondering why some fighters get a pass while others don't.

I get what your saying bro, but honestly 90% of fighters squeeze down 15-20 pounds to make their perspective weight. It's pretty common, actually. The criticism with Canelo was not with being a 154lb fighter... it was with him defending his title at catchweights above 154, and having opponents jump up in weight to fight him when there's plenty of challengers at his own weight division. I like Canelo, and I'm glad he's stepping up to GGG... but I wasn't a fan of the catch weights and Lopez/Khan type opponents.

[Bronx23]

If they make 147 at the weight in, they call them a welterweight.

I'm fully aware of that...
Let me put it like this: both Kell and errol walk around weight is around the same as triple Gs ( a middleweight ), somewhere in the 170s. Their words not mine. So if tomorrow triple G comes down and weighs in at 147 and fights Keith Thurman, would you call GGG a welterweight? or would you say he's a mw melting himself down fighting in a division he's too big for ?

[Bronx23]

I get what your saying bro, but honestly 90% of fighters squeeze down 15-20 pounds to make their perspective weight. It's pretty common, actually. The criticism with Canelo was not with being a 154lb fighter... it was with him defending his title at catchweights above 154, and having opponents jump up in weight to fight him when there's plenty of challengers at his own weight division. I like Canelo, and I'm glad he's stepping up to GGG... but I wasn't a fan of the catch weights and Lopez/Khan type opponents.

I hear you and I know most guys do it. I been watching boxing for almost 20 years now. I just think some guys abuse it. They say there's weight classes for a reason but if one guy is 20lbs heavier and one guys 10lbs heavier is that really fair? There should at least be a cap on how much weight you can put on if no same day weigh ins

[Kigali]

No kidding he surely does.. I took a look at the first press conf b/w these guys.. I'm surprised Spence looks drained but Brook looks like he isnt drained much.. Look forward to the weigh in to see how they look..

No he doesn't

Jump back on Vlad's lap where you belong.

[Kigali]

wait till spence gets a taste of that chocolate brownie

Gay ass UK nonsense.

He didn't have many chocolate brownies for Shawn Porter's clumsy ass.

[Dolemite]

I'm fully aware of that...
Let me put it like this: both Kell and errol walk around weight is around the same as triple Gs ( a middleweight ), somewhere in the 170s. Their words not mine. So if tomorrow triple G comes down and weighs in at 147 and fights Keith Thurman, would you call GGG a welterweight? or would you say he's a mw melting himself down fighting in a division he's too big for ?

Yes, if his body could squeeze to the WW limit to challenge for a title, than he, on that night, is a welterweight. Now... if GGG made Kieth Thurman move up to 160 to defend his MW title against Thurman, or made Thurman move to a catchweight of 154 for Thurmans 147 title, that would be a weight bully.

All fighters have to cut weight. If a fighter can make the weight, they are whatever class division the scale says they are. The only time there is weight bullying, is when fighters are pulling opponents up from lower weight classes.

[robbyheartbaby]

Just saw an interview with Spence where he said he's having a hard time making the weight. He also said he's a grown man & 147 is not his natural weight so it's hard for him because he walks around in the 170s. (Same as triple G..)

I find it funny that people don't critique him on that but bashed canelo to no end for the same thing.

I think Spence and brook are both weight bullying at 147. The difference is win or lose I think brook will move up. Spence seems like he plans on staying at 147.

Why the double standard though?

We need to go back to the days of same day weigh ins. Fight at your natural weight or don't fight at all. If everyone fought at their natural weight everyone would be on an even playing field

Are you kidding it's totally different, Canelo fought at 155 for years and held the middleweight strap. If you make 147 you are 147 but it's the catchweights that give the people the s***s. If canelo was making 154 consistently instead of making his own rules people would have been fine with it. In an case, Canelo is at 160 and will be better for it.

[Nomadic]

Kell Brook keeps wearing that red shirt, lol.

The same reason Dead Pool wears a red uniform. He plans on bleeding that night.