Are promoters freezing out PBC?

[original zero]

nope. stop being biased. they are paying the same amount. zero. its a time buy. the only pbc network that was paying was spike.

wrong. fs1 is paying. bounce is paying. showtime is paying. spike was paying. the last two shows on CBS, CBS has paid. the time buys are largely over.

[Motorcity Cobra]

indirectly, sure. They made the Khan fight through Khan's pops, and Haymon signed off on it. And they made the Chavez fight through Sean Gibbons, and Haymon signed off on it. They did not deal directly with Haymon, and they did not have their A-list fighter go fight on a Haymon event.

But you are making my point for me. ALL of these en****** (your beloved Haymon included), do what is in THEIR best interests. Period. End of story.

Your singling out Haymon when I'm talking about PBC. Khan is a PBC fighter and so is Chavez. If you're using them you're using a PBC fighter which is the point of the whole thread and even in the title. Now you're moving the goalposts. So we went from stop speculating, to denying facts, to speculation, to changing the subject. Ok bruh

[OnePunch]

Your singling out Haymon when I'm talking about PBC. Khan is a PBC fighter and so is Chavez. If you're using them you're using a PBC fighter which is the point of the whole thread and even in the title. Now you're moving the goalposts. So we went from stop speculating, to denying facts, to speculation, to changing the subject. Ok bruh

dude you are making ZERO sense.

In THREE YEARS, despite having a RIDICULOUS bankroll, the PBC has NEVER had a credible non-PBC fighter appear in a main event. NOT ONCE. You seem to want to blame that on Golden Boy (as if Golden Boy controls every single non-PBC fighter on the planet), which is ******ed. You want to also blame Golden Boy for Garcia-Linares not being made yet, however you have no information whatsoever if the a-side of that fight (Garcia i.e. Haymon) has even reached out or made an offer of any kind to Golden Boy. You just ASSUME that its Golden Boys fault. For all you know Haymon might have other plans for Garcia that dont include Linares. You dont know. So why you keep acting like you DO know is somewhat of a mystery......

[al-Xander]

Blame everyone but Haymon, yeah. Even when the whole point of PBC signing up all these fighters is precisely to have control over everything. PBC, the home of one fight a year fighters. But but blame GBP doe. Kills me.

[bigdunny1]

Your singling out Haymon when I'm talking about PBC. Khan is a PBC fighter and so is Chavez. If you're using them you're using a PBC fighter which is the point of the whole thread and even in the title. Now you're moving the goalposts. So we went from stop speculating, to denying facts, to speculation, to changing the subject. Ok bruh

Chavez has never fought on PBC he signed with Haymon and fought twice on Showtime his last fight before fighting Canelo matter fact not only did Showtime not pay for and PBC wouldn't pay for it it was aired on Bein Sports Espanol. But Chavez has never fought on a PBC card. Khan has fought just once on PBC. People need to understand there is a huge difference between PBC fights and Haymon just letting his fighters fight on Showtime, HBO or some other network. You want other promoters to send their best fighters to go fight on PBC when really to be honest Haymon is barely sending his own top fighters to fight on PBC these days. He's back to the old model of sending his fighters to Showtime or allowing his fighters to go elsewhere for money. And if you believe Khan he didn't allow anything. Khan said flat out Haymon can't stop him from taking those fights. And Chavez has literally never fought on PBC.

[bigdunny1]

Blame everyone but Haymon, yeah. Even when the whole point of PBC signing up all these fighters is precisely to have control over everything. PBC, the home of one fight a year fighters. But but blame GBP doe. Kills me.

exactly. haymon had all the networks, money and his own roster of fighters he didn't need anyone else's fighters to make PBC successful. He screwed it up lost half a billion with really nothing to show for it and it's not because of Golden Boy or any other promoter. Haymon has like 200 signed fighters with plenty of intriguing fights he could of made but chose not to.

[al-Xander]

So Mikey left Arum. Motorcity Cobra and his fellow Haymon fanboys celebrated the event. And fans assumed PBC would take care of Mikey and provide him plenty of meaningful fights. Turned out that it was a huge mistake. Garcia has been calling out Loma, Linares, Crawford, etc. Non PBC fighters. Wtf! This guy should never have left! He was already making an average of $900K with Arum for fighting guys someone already beat! You know how much he made for 2 fights at PBC/SHO? $700K for 2 fights.

Mikey vs Broner would have been a huge fight at PBC. But that's not going to happen. He needs a GBP fighter doe. Kills me.

[killakali]

wrong. fs1 is paying. bounce is paying. showtime is paying. spike was paying. the last two shows on CBS, CBS has paid. the time buys are largely over.

wrong again. you are so biased and making things up. Show a link proving they are paying. It is bs. Obviously Showtime is paying and Spike was paying but Bounce, FS1 Fox have always been time shares and CBS isn't paying. That is Showtime paying and placing them on CBS. You need to get your head out of the sand.

[original zero]

wrong again. you are so biased and making things up. Show a link proving they are paying.

haymon doesn't speak, which allows people like you to make things up. i speak from experience in the industry and being connected to involved parties. you're an idiot on a message board pulling things out of your ass.

It is bs. Obviously Showtime is paying and Spike was paying but Bounce, FS1 Fox have always been time shares and CBS isn't paying. That is Showtime paying and placing them on CBS. You need to get your head out of the sand.

bounce pays a license fee. CBS owns showtime. whether it's CBS giving showtime more money, or showtime & CBS both kicking in money, either way it's not a time buy. haymon is being paid to put fights on prime time CBS. period. that was not happening before PBC.

[killakali]

haymon doesn't speak, which allows people like you to make things up. i speak from experience in the industry and being connected to involved parties. you're an idiot on a message board pulling things out of your ass.




bounce pays a license fee. CBS owns showtime. whether it's CBS giving showtime more money, or showtime & CBS both kicking in money, either way it's not a time buy. haymon is being paid to put fights on prime time CBS. period. that was not happening before PBC.

you are not connected you are a loser on a boxing forum. Someone connected wouldn't be on here pendejo. Read the articles. All clearly state that all PBC channels are time buys EXCEPT Spike which already kicked PBC off their airwaves.

CBS isn't buying fights. LOL talk about not understanding the use of english grammar. Showtime bought ONE CARD and put it on CBS. And good for them. It was a big fight just didn't turn out to be a very good fight. Just okay.

FS1 has never paid for boxing. PBC sells commericals on there shows same as GBP on Estrella and ESPN and Top Rank on Unimas. Those are all time buys.

The only company buying fights is Showtime from PBC. Why do you think the only PBC cards coming out are occasional Bounce cards and consistent FS1 cards? Because those cards are cheap. PBC has enough bankroll left to pay for those cards for a long time to develop talent.

The ESPN, NBC, etc cards have dried up due to lack of funds. It doesn't take a genius to see that. Thats why so many PBC fighters are disgruntled and mad about their lack of activity. If you are so connected you would know that.