Who are the top 10 heavyweights based on their talent rather than record?

[Mr Objecitivity]

But it has a huge effect on stamina right ?

Perhaps, but there isn't any evidence that it has any more of an effect on stamina than some of the other legal drugs out there. The drug was legal for more than 3 decades and I've seen athletes who used Meldonium but still suffered from having inferior stamina compared to other athletes during those times. Meldonium was banned prematurely, without there even existing conclusive evidence as to how much it enhances an athlete, relative to other legal drugs / artificial chemicals.

You can give the same Meldonium to other people and chances are, most won't be displaying anywhere near the power that Povetkin displays. It takes a lot more than just Meldonium if you think drugs are the only reason behind his abilities / power.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Perhaps, but there isn't any evidence that it has any more of an effect on stamina than some of the other legal drugs out there. The drug was legal for more than 3 decades and I've seen athletes who used Meldonium but still suffered from having inferior stamina compared to other athletes during those times. Meldonium was banned prematurely, without there even existing conclusive evidence as to how much it enhances an athlete, relative to other legal drugs / artificial chemicals.

You can give the same Meldonium to other people and chances are, most won't be displaying anywhere near the power that Povetkin displays. It takes a lot more than just Meldonium if you think drugs are the only reason behind his abilities / power.

I'd become a particular fan of Povetkin late in his career after the somewhat poor showing versus Hück which I really thought was a shameful performance, I'd been a big fan up to that point, then came the tear of wins after the Klitschko loss I felt he'd re dedictated himself and really the stand out heavyweight, in truth he really has the best résumé in active boxing right now but with failed doping tests it really calls every win into doubt.

I'm not really for attacking him but his two failed doping tests it's very difficult to support him or root for him. He's really nothing more than a cheat at this stage.

[Mr Objecitivity]

I'd become a particular fan of Povetkin late in his career after the somewhat poor showing versus Hück which I really thought was a shameful performance, I'd been a big fan up to that point, then came the tear of wins after the Klitschko loss I felt he'd re dedictated himself and really the stand out heavyweight, in truth he really has the best résumé in active boxing right now but with failed doping tests it really calls every win into doubt.

I'm not really for attacking him but his two failed doping tests it's very difficult to support him or root for him. He's really nothing more than a cheat at this stage.

Anybody can have an off night where they perform below their best. Even the greats! That doesn't make such performances shameful, as long as they are rare occurrences. Thus, Povetkin's performance against Huck wasn't shameful. He was ill that night and it was a one off performance.

"Class Tells Over Time" is a phrase that is very true. It is backed up by your very statement on Alexander Povetkin having the best current heavyweight resume and has really been the second best heavyweight of the last 5 or 6 years after Wladimir Klitschko.

As for Povetkin being a 'cheat', that's only if you first believe that:

1) Meldonium enhances one's athletic abilities beyond what legal drugs already do.

My response: There isn't even any sufficient scientific evidence that Meldonium enhances an athlete, any more than legal drugs do. In fact, one could argue that it was banned prematurely.

Here is an article that you can read about the effects of Meldonium which states that it doesn't even help athletes in the first place:

2) Alexander Povetkin actually took Meldonium after it was banned.

My response: There is no evidence but rather, just traces found in his body within the legal threshold which is expected since it takes time for it to leave the body.

3) The other top boxers, who aren't penalized for taking drugs are 100% clean.

In this modern 21st century world, a 100% clean athlete is a myth. Such a thing doesn't exist. Especially when it's about the absolute best athletes from first and second world countries. This is an artificial world we're living in currently where consuming artificial chemicals is the norm. They are found in animal products and even fruits. The reason why athletes are as good as they are today where they are breaking previous records compared to athletes in the past is because of artificial / chemical enhancement of athletes.

Regardless of media propaganda, one has to be totally naive and delusional if they think there exists 100% clean athletes at the absolute top level where athletes are breaking world records. Especially in the modern 21st century which is an artificial world that is bound to have athletes enhanced artificially.

Expecting 100% clean athletes like how they existed during gladiatorial times or ancient Rome times isn't going to exist anymore. Those primitive eras are over. We are living in the most technologically advanced era of human civilization and one has to be totally delusional and ******ed to think that technological enhancement of the human body isn't going to be prevalent today.

[juggernaut666]

When did AJ suddenly become a really SKILLED fighter������
He has poor footwork
Zero head movement
Average punch variation
Leaky defence
No real fluidity to his movement
The list goes on and on...
He makes up for this with his size, power, speed, explosiveness etc. But they are athletic/physical attributes NOT technical skills!
You fanboys are pathetic...������
The most skilled HW is Ortiz by a mile, best footwork, punch variation, solid textbook defence etc. Povetkin is pretty skilled as well.
This shows how poor the HW division is in terms of skill

Wow ,how did i miss this gem ? Fits right in with the rest of the garbage you post on here . It certainly fits in with the mentally ill posts that weiland and mlac posted thats for sure !


Not only does it PROVE how ****** you are but it has no correlation to the thread which is listing the top HW's !

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Wow ,how did i miss this gem ? Fits right in with the rest of the garbage you post on here . It certainly fits in with the mentally ill posts that weiland and mlac posted thats for sure !


Not only does it PROVE how ****** you are but it has no correlation to the thread which is listing the top HW's !

Everything I said is correct. You AJ fanboys just can’t handle the truth. Nothing I’ve said you can PROVE wrong.

I think it’s absolutely pathetic that you’re searching for old posts of mine. You’re obsession with me is out of control😬😬

And let’s remember what you’ve said. That I PROVED WRONG:
“Pro’s can’t compete in a the Olympic’s”
🚨WRONG🚨 Both N’Dam and Ruenroeng competed in 2016.

“Joe Joyce was a novice when he fought Kuzmin”
🚨WRONG🚨 A novice is a boxer who has not competed in a senior open championship. Joe Joyce had already won one in the ABA’s, therefore was not a novice.

“Klitchko”
🚨WRONG🚨 There’s an S in it ******. And you call me ******😂😂

I could go on and on, yet you are incapable of PROVING me wrong on any occasion and that eats you up inside doesn’t it.
Hold this L B*tch🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[daggum]

this sounds like a pro vitali thread...its never about resume with that guy even though he lost his two biggest fights oh well