I know this forum is filled with nuthuggers but i just want to know see everyones opinions on this matter. Do you think by the time Manny P decides to hang up his gloves he will have achieved a higher status than Morales or MAB?
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Status in this case shall not always be derived from cold facts. It can come from perception. Even if Pac gets to beat Morales again, there's no telling that people will raise him to a level higher than Morales. A 2-1 record is no guarantee. Not even if one tucks on to to it a 2-0 slate versus MAB. (This is not saying Pacquiao will surely beat those two in the future.)If memory serves, Sandy Saddler beat Willie Pep in all their meetings but one. Yet, there's nothing close to a consensus that Saddler was better than Will o' the Wisp. Far from it.
Indeed, in a poll on this scene conducted by a member (SEE, a thread titled: "Who's the greatest featherweight?" in this forum), Saddler didn't even come close to Willie who was voted by most as the greatest featherweight in history, with Salvador Sanchez coming in second and Henry Armstrong, third. -
Don't know. He definitely beat those two fighters though. I guess it depends on who you are. Some people give credit prematurely, other accurately, and some will never give credit. Pacquiao will certainly be remembered even though as only just a foot note on storied careers, he will be remembered.Originally posted by Jimmy The GentLast edited by Alibata; 05-21-2006, 07:38 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by Jimmy The Gent
he wont unless people stop dismissing his wins as fights against over the hill fighters
which clearly arentComment
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I honestly don't think Pac will surpass Morales' status....but never the less Pac will be a HOF just like Morales and MAB!Comment
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its to early in his carrere to put them up and be remebered like MAB and Morales, he has vicotrys over them. but MAB and Morales have victorys over each other and many other champions at that division. he will be there in sevral years, if he keeps taking hard fights like he has beforeComment
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Pacquiao still has a bright career ahead of him and another fight with the all-time great Morales on the horizon too.
He hasn't accomplished as much as Morales or BArrera have to this point but he could certainly make a case for himself depending on what he does with this future.
I personally hold Erik Morales in higher regard than both men. He has cleaned out a division (in which he is probably one of the 2-3 greatest fighters ever at the weight). He has won major world titles in 3 different weight classes. He has fought and beaten some of the stiffest competition of the last handful of years. He fights for the fans and never fails to put on a good show. He has moved up in weight and has made multiple defenses of his titles at lower weights etc etc....
His record is pretty much self explanatory. Barrera, Zaragoza, Pacquiao, Kelley, Ramirez, Chi, Chavez, Hernandez, Jones, McCullough, Acero-Sanchez, etc...dude was a beast.Comment
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He already smashed the **** out of both of them in one-sided ass whippings. Pacquiao will surpass them by miles if he hasn't already.Comment
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in my eyes as a Pinoy he has to pass the accomplishment of our alltime no.1 fighter Gabriel "Flash" Elorde, pacman at this point in time is already considered by a majority at second spot ...Comment
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Honestly man, if don't get serious with boxing and let himself be distracted by fame and it's perks like endorsement, chicks, ******** and so on then pac ends his career in two to three years from now.Originally posted by Jimmy The Gent
If he egts enlightened now then pac still a p4p at the age of 40.
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