''If We Look At Marciano's record, he Fought a Bunch of DUCKS!'' - Floyd

[Lester Tutor]

Ok. That's all I wanted to know. Whether you thought it was a fair offer or not.

My only point was in response to ADP02 saying that Mayweather ducked prime Pac. A 50/50 split and 14 day cut-off for drug testing in no way can be seen as an attempt to duck. If anything, refusing that should be seen as an attempt to duck. Some, like you, believe it was just Pac's way of saying that he won't concede everything to Mayweather. Ok. But it's clear that this offer was reasonable and an attempt to fight, and for whatever reason, Pac is the one who said no.

As for Freddie Roach, if he told multiple lies in the past to protect Pac, it wouldn't make sense that now he would throw Pac under the bus with a false narrative. It's clear to those of us that are unbiased that this was an attempt to get the fight on, and actually this turned out to be a better deal than the one Pac got in the end, since he had to accept less than 50% and testing up until the day of the fight.

I appreciate your honest opinion. Respect.

Floyd influenced the current decade to focus on anti-doping. VADA was founded in 2011 by Margaret Goodman and associates, a ring doctor on an old school HBO Payroll...

Hmm.

TBE!!! Straight shook the modern protocols. It's not complicated to acknowledge Floyd's skill, the guy was brought up in a boxing ring by a notorious family brewed into boxing. Pac wasn'T... Pac was brought up by Top Rank and HBO as an experiment to exploit a foreign fighter under the guise of PEDs. That's more fact than fiction. Pacboys are gullibles. If ***** said to #48 followers, ''I know more about real estate property worldwide than a Gas Station owner'' they'd be in denial like the following video... because what does ***** know about real estate property vs what does Conte know about the world of PEDs...

[travestyny]

Floyd influenced the current decade to focus on anti-doping. VADA was founded in 2011 by Margaret Goodman and associates, a ring doctor on an old school HBO Payroll...

Hmm.

TBE!!! Straight shook the modern protocols. It's not complicated to acknowledge Floyd's skill, the guy was brought up in a boxing ring by a notorious family brewed into boxing. Pac wasn'T... Pac was brought up by Top Rank and HBO as an experiment to exploit a foreign fighter under the guise of PEDs. That's more fact than fiction. Pacboys are gullibles. If ***** said to #48 followers, ''I know more about real estate property worldwide than a Gas Station owner'' they'd be in denial like the following video... because what does ***** know about real estate property vs what does Conte know about the world of PEDs...

LOL. Agree 100%. It's not hard to tell what was up with Manny "AcneBack" Pacquiao. The PacRoaches are in denial.

[djtmal]

Ok. That's all I wanted to know. Whether you thought it was a fair offer or not.

My only point was in response to ADP02 saying that Mayweather ducked prime Pac. A 50/50 split and 14 day cut-off for drug testing in no way can be seen as an attempt to duck. If anything, refusing that should be seen as an attempt to duck. Some, like you, believe it was just Pac's way of saying that he won't concede everything to Mayweather. Ok. But it's clear that this offer was reasonable and an attempt to fight, and for whatever reason, Pac is the one who said no.

As for Freddie Roach, if he told multiple lies in the past to protect Pac, it wouldn't make sense that now he would throw Pac under the bus with a false narrative. It's clear to those of us that are unbiased that this was an attempt to get the fight on, and actually this turned out to be a better deal than the one Pac got in the end, since he had to accept less than 50% and testing up until the day of the fight.

I appreciate your honest opinion. Respect.

Well thats how standing on principle works. Its a gamble. Pacquaio's boxing stock plummeted with the loss to Marquez, and he had the $ problems, so in the end he had to concede to all the Mayweather camp demands, but that was a ***** card both sides could play when all the options ran out.

Thank you, but now in all fairness, you gotta address the aftermath, the lawsuit, the Mayweather's was running rampant with the Pac was juicing stories...settling out of court for defamation, and Manny Pacquaio agreeing to the 14 day blood cutoff information that you were challenged on, and why the Mayweather camp took the offer off the table. Everything after 1/07/10.

[travestyny]

Well thats how standing on principle works. Its a gamble. Pacquaio's boxing stock plummeted with the loss to Marquez, and he had the $ problems, so in the end he had to concede to all the Mayweather camp demands, but that was a ***** card both sides could play when all the options ran out.

Thank you, but now in all fairness, you gotta address the aftermath, the lawsuit, the Mayweather's was running rampant with the Pac was juicing stories...settling out of court for defamation, and Manny Pacquaio agreeing to the 14 day blood cutoff information that you were challenged on, and why the Mayweather camp took the offer off the table. Everything after 1/07/10.

What is there to address? We know that Bob Arum was playing mind games and had no intention of having this fight proceed. He actually held unilateral negotiations for the "second round of negotiations."

If this wasn't clear by now, we had Arum saying, "Sign the contract" when it became clear that there was no contract. Finally when Mayweather met with Pacquaio alone in a hotel....boom...fight's done.

Arum was clearly the reason this fight wasn't made, after Pac dodging the 14 day cut-off after the first negotiation, that is.

[ADP02]

You're a *****. In hiding? How long was my last post here waiting for your monkey ass. And you have the nerve to ask if I'm hiding. Lmao.

How long has my post been sitting asking you about EPO being a threshold substance....and you bailed out. Not a peep!

How long has my post been sitting asking you if Pac will honor the poll he made? And not a peep!

Your theory makes no sense. Blunder after blunder. You said the IV would bring down EPO below threshold, right?

Still waiting. Go find proof that EPO is a threshold substance.


If you can't, guess what? You better come back and say you are WRONGGGGGG!

By the way, your desperation is hilarious. You go and look up a shakeout run? Lmao. Does he run at the gym, you idiot? Lmaooooo!

you expect a pacf@g to do any research of finding the facts? Lol good luck bro.

Actually its your friend TRAV that didn't do his research and asked me to go research. Just like he always does. KABOOOOM!


Here is a statement that I found:
"EPO has a half-life of around 5-9 hours. Depending on how much you take, you must cross a threshold of X% to be "positive". This % was 80% but it is different now, I believe, and not published."


The issue is not finding EPO. Humans naturally produce EPO. The issue is finding out if you have illegal synthetic EPO substance in your body. They need to be very sure that you have. It can be that they found it to be su****ious in nature but if the degree is not high, then you pass the test!

[travestyny]

Actually its your friend TRAV that didn't do his research and asked me to go research. Just like he always does. KABOOOOM!


Here is a statement that I found:
"EPO has a half-life of around 5-9 hours. Depending on how much you take, you must cross a threshold of X% to be "positive". This % was 80% but it is different now, I believe, and not published."


The issue is not finding EPO. Humans naturally produce EPO. The issue is finding out if you have illegal synthetic EPO substance in your body. They need to be very sure that you have. It can be that they found it to be su****ious in nature but if the degree is not high, then you pass the test!

I already explained this to you moron. We know it is naturally produced. It is NOT a threshold substance, idiot.

They test for recombinant EPO.

[ADP02]

BECAUSE HE WAS DUCKING...OR WAITING FOR THOSE PED'S TO EXIT HIS SYSTEM. PICK YOUR CHOICE, BIOTCH!

LET'S SEE WHAT YOU GOT. [/B]

Funny how you need to hear what Floyd's fake Asz dr Ariza has to say about the fake Asz doctor's note on Floyd BS TUE request ....

but for Manny, it must be that he was using PEDs and waiting for it to clear his system!!!

Floyd fans .... gotta laugh and laugh hard!

[travestyny]

you expect a pacf@g to do any research of finding the facts? Lol good luck bro.

Actually its your friend TRAV that didn't do his research and asked me to go research. Just like he always does. KABOOOOM!


Here is a statement that I found:
"EPO has a half-life of around 5-9 hours. Depending on how much you take, you must cross a threshold of X% to be "positive". This % was 80% but it is different now, I believe, and not published."


The issue is not finding EPO. Humans naturally produce EPO. The issue is finding out if you have illegal synthetic EPO substance in your body. They need to be very sure that you have. It can be that they found it to be su****ious in nature but if the degree is not high, then you pass the test!

Once again, this idiot shows he is incapable of doing research, just like Xi said:

Threshold Substance: An exogenous or endogenous Prohibited Substance, Metabolite or Marker of a Prohibited Substance which is analyzed quantitatively and for which an analytical result (concentration, ratio or score) in excess of a pre-determined Decision Limit constitutes an Adverse Analytical Finding. Threshold Substances are identified as such in the Technical Document on Decision Limits (TD DL).

The document is found here:
TD2017DL



Chart with Threshold substances:

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Threshold Substances are identified as such in the Technical Document on Decision Limits (TD DL). DO YOU SEE EPO, ADP02????

KABOOOOM! YA DUMB BlTCH!

[travestyny]

Funny how you need to hear what Floyd's fake Asz dr Ariza has to say about the fake Asz doctor's note on Floyd BS TUE request ....

but for Manny, it must be that he was using PEDs and waiting for it to clear his system!!!

Floyd fans .... gotta laugh and laugh hard!

You still getting owned, bltch. Tell me more about how EPO is a threshold substance!


LMAOOOOOO! SAY YOU WERE WRONG, BlTCH!

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME:

MY INFO CAME STRAIGHT FROM THE WORLD ANTI-DOPING AGENCY....


YOUR INFO IS FROM A POSTER ON A CYCLING WEBSITE. LMAOOOO!


YOU DONE GETTING OWNED YET? AT LEAST YOU TRIED! LMAOOOOO!!!!

[ADP02]

I already explained this to you moron. We know it is naturally produced. It is NOT a threshold substance, idiot.

They test for recombinant EPO.

So you looked it up and now you pretend that you knew about it all along and call others idioto ... funny Floyd fans.

As I explained to you, its not as easy as you think. The athlete can have the substance but if the test does not say it is for sure then the athlete is not going to be given a positive result!!!

but all this is is DEFLECTION .... still waiting for you to do some research of your own.


QUESTION #1:
How does it different for Floyd or you or me if we urinate in a cup (sample) or in a toilet bowl? There is no difference. Floyd will not get more dehydrated because of the "drug test" which comprised of him urinating in a cup. YOU DEFLECTING ..... so either do more research or come back and say that you are WRONG!!!

QUESTION #2: Same as Question #1 but its for Floyd giving < 1 tbsp. of blood 10 days earlier. How would this affect Floyd if Floyd his fans and USADA said it will not affect Manny????

QUESTION #3: Floyd was NO LONGER training hard. He admitted so on several interviews. If he says that he is RELAXING, that is the opposite of HARD WORK ....


So it does not add up for Floyd. It never did. You never brought up anything that made any sense.


If you are so confident, we can bring these points in the thunderdome and lets see ..... Never been there but this is too easy that even an objective Floyd fan will not agree with you..... GO!