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    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    b) Here you go! REAL PROOF!!!
    ""Hey, I got to go to sportsbook and gotta bet on the game""

    The video caught my eye, though....

    So your proof is that Floyd yells to the crowd: Hey I gotta go to sports book. I gotta bet on a game....to which the crowd enjoys a laugh.

    And that tells you that he didn't go take his piss test?


    LMAOOOO. Dude....... You are taking this much too seriously. Relax yourself. Your conspiracy theory is a joke.

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      Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      I need cliffsnotes. It's it really necessary for me to look through this essay of yours?

      Tell me which threshold substance he was abusing. Your whole argument hinges on that.

      If you fail....then...I saved my time reading through this garbage.

      I'll be waiting.

      -----edit-----
      Read through most of your reply. Wow. You really are dumb.

      1. What do you think the DCO did when he first arrived. I'm guessing...just a wild guess... he asked Floyd to pee. Now, don't duck.... is a partial sample given at 1pm PRIOR TO THE IV???? That you couldn't even understand that is why you are a moron.

      2. You are saying Floyd hid behind his bodyguards in a room full of people and did something illegal? Lol. Wow dude. This conspiracy theory is great. Tell me more.

      3. Are you now saying the DCO lost sight of Floyd and didn't do his job? I thought this was an upstanding DCO according to your conspiracy theory.

      4. About Diaz....quack quack quack. Check my sig. you know the experts say you are wrong. When you are ready to step up about that, let me know. It's cowardly to keep bringing that up knowing you keep ducking me, son.

      5. Did you really say something comparing Floyd to cyclists who aren't blood tested at a race? Lol. You know he was blood tested, right?

      6. Tell me how you would microdose over 6 years for let's say 4 months each year knowing that the drugs you are taking take approximately 18 hours to clear, and you do this for over 130 tests while being tested strategically by an anti-doping agency. Welcome to the idea about the athlete biological passport. When you explain your idea for planning how to strategically dope and always be safe by planning 18 hours when you KNOW you won't be tested... yea. Explain.

      7. WADA doesn't normalize marijuana. They told you that. As far as I know, they normalize for steroids. So... again, tell me something about your theory that makes sense. It doesn't make sense. Whatever is mixed in will be caught. Did you find more info on threshold substances yet? You're behind! Come on. Are you saying the drugs you are accusing him of taking are normalized for dilution and also not threshold substances? Lol. Don't you see this crushes you? You better do something to keep this conspiracy theory going. I got my popcorn ready. Waitingggg...

      While you still DEFLECTED and SPINNED in your previous post but at least you put some effort. You struck out badly but I prefer that to you just coming back with 100% DEFLECTIONS!!!!


      STEP UP TO THE PLATE.
      RESPOND TO MY PREVIOUS POST ..... I had direct points and questions for you to answer.

      I told you to your face that you would come back and DEFLECT, DUCK DUCK, QUACK QUACK and you did!!!






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        Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        While you still DEFLECTED and SPINNED in your previous post but at least you put some effort. You struck out badly but I prefer that to you just coming back with 100% DEFLECTIONS!!!!


        STEP UP TO THE PLATE.
        RESPOND TO MY PREVIOUS POST ..... I had direct points and questions for you to answer.

        I told you to your face that you would come back and DEFLECT, DUCK DUCK, QUACK QUACK and you did!!!






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        Righttt. It's easy to see who is ducking and who is making up complete bullshlt.

        Your speculation is ******ed. He is hiding behind bodyguards and blood doping? And you expect me to take you seriously?

        I told you to your face to challenge me in the thunderdome. Even put that shlt in my sig. you still duck. So don't pretend you have balls now you little bltch. You aren't fooling anyone.

        By the way... you still gathering info on threshold substances, or do you admit you were wrong. Also, love how you ignored that a diluted sample is still sent in to be analyzed. You were wrong as usual. Is it really necessary for me to keep stomping you out with FACTS vs. your dumb ass "he was hiding behind bodyguards and blood doping" speculation?
        Last edited by travestyny; 03-09-2017, 01:42 AM.

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          In a statement released Thursday morning, a USADA spokeswoman said, “Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today.”

          Yet, Bennett and commission Chairman Francisco Aguilar sharply disagree, explaining the Nevada commission has not adopted the World Anti-Doping Agency code’s prohibited methods.

          Floyd Mayweather Jr. says he's going out 49-0
          Floyd Mayweather Jr. says he's going out 49-0
          Bennett said unless the IV was administered at a hospital, it needs to be cleared by filing a the****utic-use exemption, or TUE, and supporting documents through the Nevada commission and authorized by the commission’s medical expert.

          “He cannot have it done at his house and [USADA] can’t authorize it.... I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a the****utic-use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada,” Bennett said. “USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered.------------------------ this was the first statement released by the NSAC after they found out about floyds IV, they specifically said he couldn't do what he did, so ******NY, the fact they did a complete 180 later only suggests that it was murky and corrupt, to say they said floyd did nothing wrong is only half of the story, floyd always brought huge amounts of money to Vegas which would obviously put pressure on the NSAC from the state, the NSAC is controlled by the state, money talks, as for the TUE committee not knowing who they were signing off for, that's their rule, who says they actually adhered to it, floyd opened the door for usada into boxing, they get hired, money changes hands,I'm quite confident that they new who they were signing off for, bj penn was banned for an IV yet floyd gets a TUE under the same rules, on top of that the first contract for the fight was sent back because floyd stated in the contract that if any TUE was issued it didn't need to be disclosed to the opposition or to the NSAC, pacquaio sent it back and said yes it needed to be disclosed, why would you write that in a contract unless you had intentions of applying for one and didn't want the opposition camp to know
          Last edited by Shape up; 03-09-2017, 04:03 AM.

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            Originally posted by Shape up View Post
            In a statement released Thursday morning, a USADA spokeswoman said, �Mr. Mayweather�s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today.?br />
            Yet, Bennett and commission Chairman Francisco Aguilar sharply disagree, explaining the Nevada commission has not adopted the World Anti-Doping Agency code�s prohibited methods.

            Floyd Mayweather Jr. says he's going out 49-0
            Floyd Mayweather Jr. says he's going out 49-0
            Bennett said unless the IV was administered at a hospital, it needs to be cleared by filing a the****utic-use exemption, or TUE, and supporting documents through the Nevada commission and authorized by the commission�s medical expert.

            �He cannot have it done at his house and [USADA] can�t authorize it.... I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a the****utic-use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada,?Bennett said. �USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered.------------------------ this was the first statement released by the NSAC after they found out about floyds IV, they specifically said he couldn't do what he did, so ******NY, the fact they did a complete 180 later only suggests that it was murky and corrupt, to say they said floyd did nothing wrong is only half of the story, floyd always brought huge amounts of money to Vegas which would obviously put pressure on the NSAC from the state, the NSAC is controlled by the state, money talks, as for the TUE committee not knowing who they were signing off for, that's their rule, who says they actually adhered to it, floyd opened the door for usada into boxing, they get hired, money changes hands,I'm quite confident that they new who they were signing off for, bj penn was banned for an IV yet floyd gets a TUE under the same rules, on top of that the first contract for the fight was sent back because floyd stated in the contract that if any TUE was issued it didn't need to be disclosed to the opposition or to the NSAC, pacquaio sent it back and said yes it needed to be disclosed, why would you write that in a contract unless you had intentions of applying for one and didn't want the opposition camp to know
            Weren't you the idiot that said I was lying about their rule for not knowing the applicant's name? And now you learned you were wrong, right. Happy I could teach you something.

            1. So your whole premise is that USADA took money to help Floyd use PED's. That's great, except it doesn't explain why they just didn't tell him when the DCO was coming. Makes no sense.

            2. You say NSAC changed up because Floyd brings lots of money. That's great, but then why say anything in the first place?

            3. Your bullshlt about Floyd being helped by NSAC and USADA are mere speculation. Your whole principal is USADA helped because Floyd got them into boxing. You provide no evidence, and USADA is no more in boxing today than they were in the past. If anything, VADA is more so in boxing. Do you wish to make up a conspiracy theory about TOP RANK and the money they paid to help VADA along? I didn't think so.

            4. The TUE application was also sent to WADA. Looks like USADA had nothing to hide, huh?

            5. This conspiracy theory doesn't hold up when you realize the independent lab would have to be involved for this to work. Give up, butt hurt f@g.

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              Did NSAC originally say he broke the rules, yes, did he try and write non disclosure into the contract, yes, did he say he had the IV because his urine was darker than usual, yes, does that qualify as a medical emergency, no, you can lick floyds sack all you want ******NY but having 750ml of saline in his own home because he was a bit dehydrated doesn't fit into WADA protocol, usada broke their rules so what makes you think they wouldn't break them again and tell the TUE committee who they were signing off, remember that the NSAC isn't a signatory so WADA couldn't change any decision anyway

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                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                Did NSAC originally say he broke the rules, yes,
                You must really enjoy getting kicked around by me. This post will be no different.

                Can you point out what rule NSAC had in place at the time of this fight that he broke? If not, shut your dumb ass up. I dare you to go find the NSAC rule he broke at this time. Everyone knows that NSAC didn't have a rule against an IV infusion for saline in place at this time.


                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                did he try and write non disclosure into the contract, yes,
                LMAOOOOOO. WRONGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!! THERE WAS NEVER ANY NON-DISCLOSURE WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT BY MAYWEATHER. THE ONLY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AND PUT INTO THE CONTRACT WERE BY......MANNY PACQUIAO. Maybe if you go do some research instead of sucking **** on the corner for crack rock, you would have learned that by now.

                Here is USADA's PUBLIC statement. If they released this to the public and it's false, you would have thought it would be challenged, no?
                The Testing Agreement that was initially presented to the Pacquiao camp contained no specific reference to retroactive TUEs, but rather to the ISTUE which contains the specific retroactive TUE language.

                Neither Mr. Mayweather nor his representatives were involved in the negotiations between USADA and Mr. Pacquiao�s representatives regarding the revisions to the Testing Agreement. Once USADA and Mr. Pacquiao�s representatives settled on the revised contract language, it was sent to Mr. Mayweather�s representatives for their review and comment. No changes were requested by Mr. Mayweather�s representatives and the Testing Agreement was finalized and fully executed without further revision.
                Here is the confidentiality language in the ISTUE:
                9.3 The TUE application shall be dealt with in accordance with the principles of strict medical confidentiality. The members of the TUEC, independent experts and the relevant staff of the Anti-Doping Organization shall conduct all of their activities relating to the process in strict confidence and shall sign appropriate confidentiality agreements. In particular they shall keep the following information confidential:

                a. All medical information and data provided by the Athlete and physician(s) involved in the Athlete�s care.

                b. All details of the application, including the name of the physician(s) involved in the process.
                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                did he say he had the IV because his urine was darker than usual, yes
                Uh....that's what happens when you are dehydrated, you moron.

                [IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-10%20at%206.57.10%20AM.png[/IMG]

                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                does that qualify as a medical emergency, no,
                Does the ISTUE ever say it has to be a medical emergency? NO.

                4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:

                a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or

                b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or

                c. The applicable rules required the Athlete or permitted the Athlete to apply for a retroactive TUE; or
                [Comment to 4.3(c): Such Athletes are strongly advised to have a medical file prepared and ready to demonstrate their satisfaction of the TUE conditions set out at Article 4.1, in case an application for a retroactive TUE is necessary following Sample collection.]

                d. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.
                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                you can lick floyds sack all you want ******NY
                Are you talking to your moms. Because she was good at licking on sack is the reason a waste of bone marrow like you is alive.

                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                but having 750ml of saline in his own home because he was a bit dehydrated doesn't fit into WADA protocol,
                If it doesn't why didn't WADA overturn it? The application for the TUE was sent to WADA. Not only that, but you're wrong. He could have it at his home if there were a TUE granted, you moron.

                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                usada broke their rules so what makes you think they wouldn't break them again
                What rule did USADA break? They didn't break any rule. The TUEC reviewed the document, granted the TUE, and the application along with reasons for approval was sent to WADA. That's what you call following the rules, moron.

                Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                and tell the TUE committee who they were signing off, remember that the NSAC isn't a signatory so WADA couldn't change any decision anyway
                WRONG. USADA is a signatory to WADA. Therefore, WADA can check USADA, which means WADA can impose sanctions on USADA if they broke any rules. What WADA can't do is cause NSAC to impose any penalty.

                So let me get this conspiracy theory straight. USADA voluntarily involved 3 doctors and a DCO in breaking the rules....when all they had to do was tell Floyd when to taper off the PED's? lol. You're a moron.

                **** a shape up. You need a lobotomy. You have shlt for brains.

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                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  I didn't even see EPO on the list so it must be a partial list. Anyways, Floyd micro-doses then time is of essence if you want to catch the substance above the threshold.
                  I'm still waiting for the confirmation of this. What is this supposed threshold that Floyd was under for EPO. Is EPO a threshold substance?

                  Threshold Substance: An exogenous or endogenous Prohibited Substance, Metabolite or Marker of a Prohibited Substance which is analyzed quantitatively and for which an analytical result (concentration, ratio or score) in excess of a pre-determined Decision Limit constitutes an Adverse Analytical Finding. Threshold Substances are identified as such in the Technical Document on Decision Limits (TD DL).

                  TD DL:
                  [IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202017-03-08%20at%209.33.10%20AM.png[/IMG]

                  So....what threshold for EPO, ADP02? When are you going to solidify this conspiracy theory?????

                  LMAOOOOOOOOO! You got owned yet again! The more you talk, the more your ****** ass conspiracy theory turns to shlt!!!!

                  How the **** was he micro-dosing throughout this entire camp, as you have stated? Mayweather gave urine on March 13, 18, 19 and 28, April 2, 10, 15, 21 and 27 and May 1 and 2. He gave blood samples on March 13, 18 and 28, April 2, 10, 15 and 21 and May 2.

                  Microdosing EPO takes an average of what...19 hours to get out of your system. How did he navigate this gauntlet, taking microdoses of EPO 2-3 times a week, without being tipped off, which he clearly wasn't since USADA couldn't tell him when the DCO was coming. Plus you state he did this for 6 years??? You're an idiot. Conte's point with the testing not being year round is that he would do this when he WASN'T being tested, not when he was, you fool.


                  LMAOOOO. ADMIT YOU ARE WRONGGGGGG! GAME OVER, CLOWN!
                  Last edited by travestyny; 03-09-2017, 06:20 PM.

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                    Bennett said unless the IV was administered at a hospital, it needs to be cleared by filing a the****utic-use exemption, or TUE, and supporting documents THROUGH the Nevada commission and authorized by the commission’s medical expert------------ that was easy, you should learn to comprehend, as for pacquaio changing the contract, that's exactly what I was saying, floyd wanted non disclosure and pacquaio sent the contract back stipulating that all TUEs had to be disclosed, you go to a special school for assisted learning I'm thinking now

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                      Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                      Bennett said unless the IV was administered at a hospital, it needs to be cleared by filing a the****utic-use exemption, or TUE, and supporting documents THROUGH the Nevada commission and authorized by the commission�s medical expert------------ that was easy, you should learn to comprehend, as for pacquaio changing the contract, that's exactly what I was saying, floyd wanted non disclosure and pacquaio sent the contract back stipulating that all TUEs had to be disclosed, you go to a special school for assisted learning I'm thinking now
                      You have poor comprehension skills. I asked you to go find the rule in the NSAC rule book that Floyd broke.

                      You came back with nothing.

                      Then, you can't ****ing comprehend that Floyd never asked for non-disclosure, you imbecile. There were no changes asked for by Mayweather and nothing in the contract about TUE's. It all came from WADA.

                      Until you learn how to read and comprehend, please do us all a favor and shut the **** up. Thanks.

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