If Ward retires

[Elroy The Great]

What? This is common knowledge, anyone that follows boxing remember this. You're never gonna learn about boxing if you're unwilling to do some googling for yourself

there, was that so hard (1st link doesnt work)? it was hardly the way you made it out to be though. i wanted you to give me your take on froch tucking tail and running for the hills. that was not the case.

froch thought he was too big for 3g. brook thought he was up to the task to face a guy bigger than him and what happened ? the bigger guy prevailed.

also, you usually see 3g saying he would fight so and so. i have yet to find a link that quotes 3g saying anything about froch. regarding froch, its all loeffler (a ton of boxing 24 news articles with a ton of fan boy opinions and slants to end them on).

frochs take on the situation...
'' "I spoke to Tom Loeffler and we were just chatting about fighting at a catchweight but he didn't want him [Golovkin] to come near me," he told Sky Sports.

'' "He didn't say anything, he didn't want to agree to anything - it didn't even sound like he wanted him to even come up to 168lbs. As soon as that was mentioned he was straight on to talking about fighting Canelo [Alvarez].'' ''



then theres this bit (same article).....
''Golovkin and Loeffler have already said the IBF and WBA world middleweight champion is happy to move up to secure a big fight in the near future.''

froch didnt have a future. he was damn near 40. had a ton of wars. contracts alone can take a year to finalize.

''Golovkin finished by saying that he's just a regular-sized middleweight who is able to make 160lbs comfortably, and thus has no immediate intentions of leaving the division.''



then theres a case where 3g could be slanted for being a dodger....

''For Ward, on the other hand, it's obvious Sanchez simply wasn't confident enough the reward was worth the risk.''



“The fight was offered, 50-50. Every detail was 50-50 and we made a conscious decision as a team to make him a 50-50 offer just so there was no wiggle room.”



''Ward goes on to say how the plan would have been for he and GGG to each box a tune-up – as he and Kovalev did before meeting earlier this month – “then let’s get it on right after.” But Ward says Team-GGG wanted Golovkin to unify the middleweight titles first (he still has the WBO title in his sights) “and then maybe [the fight can be made] in 2018.” ''



theres a reason why i wanted YOU to give me your best link to a froch vs 3g sos i can counter it.....and i did !

[Elroy The Great]

if ward retires, he retires. he cleaned out his div, moved up and beat the best of that div. he never waited on a guy to push 40 to start taking risks.

[HandsofIron]

What happens when Ward wins again?

I think the better question is, how does Ward win? But, we'll see what happens.

[Real King Kong]

Rematches are such BS. If you lose, you ****ing lose. Who wants to fight somebody they already beat? How do you get motivated?

If ward avoids a rematch, it won't be because he already won convincingly and can't get up for it...it'll be because he doesn't want another tough fight that he has a good chance of losing.

[daggum]

I think the better question is, how does Ward win? But, we'll see what happens.

holding and hitting, lowblows, biased ref, biased judges. same as first fight whats the prob?

[HeroBando]

there, was that so hard (1st link doesnt work)? it was hardly the way you made it out to be though. i wanted you to give me your take on froch tucking tail and running for the hills. that was not the case.

froch thought he was too big for 3g. brook thought he was up to the task to face a guy bigger than him and what happened ? the bigger guy prevailed.

also, you usually see 3g saying he would fight so and so. i have yet to find a link that quotes 3g saying anything about froch. regarding froch, its all loeffler (a ton of boxing 24 news articles with a ton of fan boy opinions and slants to end them on).

frochs take on the situation...
'' "I spoke to Tom Loeffler and we were just chatting about fighting at a catchweight but he didn't want him [Golovkin] to come near me," he told Sky Sports.

'' "He didn't say anything, he didn't want to agree to anything - it didn't even sound like he wanted him to even come up to 168lbs. As soon as that was mentioned he was straight on to talking about fighting Canelo [Alvarez].'' ''



then theres this bit (same article).....
''Golovkin and Loeffler have already said the IBF and WBA world middleweight champion is happy to move up to secure a big fight in the near future.''

froch didnt have a future. he was damn near 40. had a ton of wars. contracts alone can take a year to finalize.

''Golovkin finished by saying that he's just a regular-sized middleweight who is able to make 160lbs comfortably, and thus has no immediate intentions of leaving the division.''



then theres a case where 3g could be slanted for being a dodger....

''For Ward, on the other hand, it's obvious Sanchez simply wasn't confident enough the reward was worth the risk.''



“The fight was offered, 50-50. Every detail was 50-50 and we made a conscious decision as a team to make him a 50-50 offer just so there was no wiggle room.”



''Ward goes on to say how the plan would have been for he and GGG to each box a tune-up – as he and Kovalev did before meeting earlier this month – “then let’s get it on right after.” But Ward says Team-GGG wanted Golovkin to unify the middleweight titles first (he still has the WBO title in his sights) “and then maybe [the fight can be made] in 2018.” ''



theres a reason why i wanted YOU to give me your best link to a froch vs 3g sos i can counter it.....and i did !

What's all this garbage? Best link, wtf? You claimed they were after the guy only after he retired, I prove you wrong then you reply with some links from well after his retirement and any random grievance you have vs Ggg. Don't let me catch you peddling that lame "they were after Froch only after he retired" talking point again, scoundrel

[Elroy The Great]

What's all this garbage? Best link, wtf? You claimed they were after the guy only after he retired, I prove you wrong then you reply with some links from well after his retirement and any random grievance you have vs Ggg. Don't let me catch you peddling that lame "they were after Froch only after he retired" talking point again, scoundrel

you were barely right. he was in frochs ear in 2014. there was no guarantee that the fight would have been made easily with no contractual hiccups.

froch was pushing 40 when team 3g was all about maybe fighting froch. i posted a link and a quote from 3g saying that he preferred staying a little mw and unifying the titles.

your link was weak as shlt. no contract specifications. no 3g quotes. just speculation. 3g got vocal well into frochs retirement.

ill peddle facts whenever i want.

[HeroBando]

you were barely right. he was in frochs ear in 2014. there was no guarantee that the fight would have been made easily with no contractual hiccups.

froch was pushing 40 when team 3g was all about maybe fighting froch. i posted a link and a quote from 3g saying that he preferred staying a little mw and unifying the titles.

your link was weak as shlt. no contract specifications. no 3g quotes. just speculation. 3g got vocal well into frochs retirement.

ill peddle facts whenever i want.

No contract hiccups, don't be making up more crap. They offered to fight Froch at 168 in the UK back in 2014 when Froch was the runaway #1 active SMW with a career high p4p ranking. Froch said "swerve him like the plague, punches like a mule, dangerous fight". But I see you're not interested in the facts of the case, you got some agenda to push

[Elroy The Great]

No contract hiccups, don't be making up more crap. They offered to fight Froch at 168 in the UK back in 2014 when Froch was the runaway #1 active SMW with a career high p4p ranking. Froch said "swerve him like the plague, punches like a mule, dangerous fight". But I see you're not interested in the facts of the case, you got some agenda to push

2014.....froch was 37/38. everyone knew froch was talking retirement. why wasnt 3g in frochs ear prior ?!?!? why didnt team 3g accept wards 50/50 deal ?!?!?! i couldnt find those swerve quotes in any link.

last question, did you find any fault in my linkS ?!?!?

[Elroy The Great]

frochs take on the situation...
'' "I spoke to Tom Loeffler and we were just chatting about fighting at a catchweight but he didn't want him [Golovkin] to come near me," he told Sky Sports.

'' "He didn't say anything, he didn't want to agree to anything - it didn't even sound like he wanted him to even come up to 168lbs. As soon as that was mentioned he was straight on to talking about fighting Canelo [Alvarez].'' ''

yeah, froch ''swerved''.....