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    #61
    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
    So the stakes are higher in politics than boxing. Also yes, probably rivalry resolution methods are somewhat more direct in the ex-Soviet states. Perhaps I'm missing the relevance as it pertains to GGG?
    Why GGG is so shy of his old good friend Serik?))) Why the boxer forgets the gangster's generosity? Now, GGG sleeps on silk bed-sheets, drinks expensive ****tails, drives posh cars... But, his friend serves a prison term in harsh conditions. GGG shall hire a good lawyer and save his old friend, who actually is like a second father of GGG.

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      #62
      Originally posted by january View Post
      Why GGG is so shy of his old good friend Serik?))) Why the boxer forgets the gangster's generosity? Now, GGG sleeps on silk bed-sheets, drinks expensive ****tails, drives posh cars... But, his friend serves a prison term in harsh conditions. GGG shall hire a good lawyer and save his old friend, who actually is like a second father of GGG.
      So you think he should be strengthening his 'criminal connections' rather than distancing himself from them? Did you actually think about where you're going with this?

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        #63
        Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
        So you think he should be strengthening his 'criminal connections' rather than distancing himself from them? Did you actually think about where you're going with this?
        So, you think, when your friend, who has dragged you out of a miserable existence to the stardom, gets into trouble, then you should cease your friendship? I use this opportunity to awaken Mr. Golovkin's pride and conscience. Go, Gennady, save your friend from the Kazakh Gulag! It is better late than never. You are a well-connected celebrity! The best lawyers in the world are at your disposal.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
          Just look at him. He's a straight up hood.

          Originally posted by A.K View Post
          Boxers are usually from the streets you acting like they get drafted out of college

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            #65
            Originally posted by january View Post
            So, you think, when your friend, who has dragged you out of a miserable existence to the stardom, gets into trouble, then you should cease your friendship? I use this opportunity to awaken Mr. Golovkin's pride and conscience. Go, Gennady, save your friend from the Kazakh Gulag! It is better late than never. You are a well-connected celebrity! The best lawyers in the world are at your disposal.
            What? Why would Golovkin even want to do such a thing. Because he said that the imprisoned was 'like a father' or somesuch? Fighters - especially younger ones - say that kind of **** all the time. Relationships come and go, we move on in life. Golovkin now has a family, a successful career and home in the US. Once again, I'm not quite sure of what point you're trying to make. So Golovkin was a street thug growing up in Karaganda, so criminals are heavily involved in the sport, so what?

            Look I read some of your blog and it doesn't seem like you are a boxing fan in particular but have just latched on to GGG as being a Kazakh celebrity who has crossed paths with criminals. Thing is, as I implied previously, this will shock no-one in the boxing world. The sport, amateur and pro is riddled with corruption from top to bottom. Money, violence and criminality have always been close companions and probably always will be.
            Last edited by Citizen Koba; 01-13-2017, 05:22 AM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
              What? Why would Golovkin even want to do such a thing. Because he said that the imprisoned was 'like a father' or somesuch? Fighters - especially younger ones - say that kind of **** all the time. Relationships come and go, we move on in life. Golovkin now has a family, a successful career and home in the US. Once again, I'm not quite sure of what point you're trying to make. So Golovkin was a street thug growing up in Karaganda, so criminals are heavily involved in the sport, so what?

              Look I read some of your blog and it doesn't seem like you are a boxing fan in particular but have just latched on to GGG as being a Kazakh celebrity who has crossed paths with criminals. Thing is, as I implied previously, this will shock no-one in the boxing world. The sport, amateur and pro is riddled with corruption from top to bottom. Money, violence and criminality have always been close companions and probably always will be.
              I have never said that GGG is a criminal himself. But, you know, when you befriend one closely, you involuntarily become involved in dirt. Like Klitschkos, who also were initially sponsored by an Ukrainian organized crime.

              My sources have never indicated that GGG is a bad guy, except for his friendship with the gangster and the possible sale of the gold medal. And I think that it is rather ignoble to leave your friend alone in the dark hour of trouble.

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                #67
                Originally posted by january View Post
                I have never said that GGG is a criminal himself. But, you know, when you befriend one closely, you involuntarily become involved in dirt. Like Klitschkos, who also were initially sponsored by an Ukrainian organized crime.

                My sources have never indicated that GGG is a bad guy, except for his friendship with the gangster and the possible sale of the gold medal. And I think that it is rather ignoble to leave your friend alone in the dark hour of trouble.
                - ******

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by january View Post
                  I have never said that GGG is a criminal himself. But, you know, when you befriend one closely, you involuntarily become involved in dirt. Like Klitschkos, who also were initially sponsored by an Ukrainian organized crime.

                  My sources have never indicated that GGG is a bad guy, except for his friendship with the gangster and the possible sale of the gold medal. And I think that it is rather ignoble to leave your friend alone in the dark hour of trouble.
                  Depends how close a friendship it was, whether that 'friendship' is still extant what exactly the imprisoned did and how clear it is that they did it, also if we're honest - what the cost to yourself or your family would be. You say the man is a criminal - is it not most likely that he cultivated Golovkin for the purposes of making money, just as possibly a younger Golovkin welcomed the opportunities that the relationship brought to him. Friends come and go, but this sounds to more like a business relationship however cordial it may have been at the time. **** man, if I felt an obligation to go to the aid of every dodgy individual I've befriended or had dealings with over the years it'd be a full-time commitment and frankly, life moves on.

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                    #69
                    Bad Boy Golovkin - BBG from now on.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                      Depends how close a friendship it was, whether that 'friendship' is still extant what exactly the imprisoned did and how clear it is that they did it, also if we're honest - what the cost to yourself or your family would be. You say the man is a criminal - is it not most likely that he cultivated Golovkin for the purposes of making money, just as possibly a younger Golovkin welcomed the opportunities that the relationship brought to him. Friends come and go, but this sounds to more like a business relationship however cordial it may have been at the time. **** man, if I felt an obligation to go to the aid of every dodgy individual I've befriended or had dealings with over the years it'd be a full-time commitment and frankly, life moves on.
                      I don't think that a young amateur boxer is a trove of money. Rather, it is a matter of prestige for criminals to have a bright personality as a protégé. Hey, they both hail from the same city. Mr. Kaliyev was something like a Don Corleone to Kazakh athletes. I don't think that this relationship was a purely commercial one. But, the billionaire Askar Kulibayev was too nosy a guy, who interferes with everything in Kazakhstan - from civil engineering to pipelines to retail trade.

                      So, a kind of Robin Hood - Mr. Kaliyev - had ordered an assassination attempt on the billionaire, which, unfortunately, was a failed one. By the way, a 25-year prison term for the failed attempt is rather harsh punishment, forced by the angered billionaire.

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