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Rewatching this one (crowd cam vid) I saw a Ward victory even more clearly than before. He does the more clever, clean work. A lot of rounds, Kovalev scores the biggest punch, but many others are grazing. I'm not the type to just give rounds for whoever landed the biggest punch unless it's something that clearly steals a round. Kovalev edges him on volume in some rounds but, again, many of those just aren't landing clean. I think I gave Kovalev too much credit before because I'd never seen anyone score on Ward that much so it left a strong impression.
All that said, I think the rematch is 50/50. I think Kovalev performs better the 2nd time through.
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this is a great thread on confirmation bias. starting with your goal: how do i get to 114-113 ward and then working backwards. if you watch the footage of the fight its not close at all of course but some people have the donald ***** fake news version of the fight with all of kovs punches edited out or something.
this video even misses some of kovs better punches and gives ward credit for low blows and holding and hitting and still he lost wide. everyone seems to give ward roudn 9? why? it wasnt even close. so right there all your crappy 114-113 cards get overturned. outlanded ward 2-1, landed the best punches of the round including an uppercut left hook combo and a leaping left hook whn ward was on the ropes that swiveled his head around. thats a ward round because he landed a couple little body shots? no bias though guys.
Last edited by daggum; 04-05-2017, 04:20 PM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postthis is a great thread on confirmation bias. starting with your goal: how do i get to 114-113 ward and then working backwards. if you watch the footage of the fight its not close at all of course but some people have the donald ***** fake news version of the fight with all of kovs punches edited out or something.
this video even misses some of kovs better punches and gives ward credit for low blows and holding and hitting and still he lost wide.
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Originally posted by larryxxx. View Postpost your scorecard man..i posted mines...i watched round by round
round 1 clear kov landed more and better quality
roudn 2 clear kov landd more and better quality
roudn 3 close-landed equally but kov slightly shook ward with a left hook giving him the round based on quality
round 4 clear kov landed more and better quality
round 5 close but ward landed slightly better quality
round 6 clear kov landed more and better quality
round 7 toss up lands and quality equal 10-10
round 8 close on lands but ward landed slightly better quality
round 9 clear kov landed more and better quality
round 10 clear kov landed more and better quality
round 11 toss up lands and quality equal 10-10
round 12 somewhat close but kov landed more and had ward hurt to the body
thats my card watching it this time. i could be persuaded upon further review to change those 10-10 rounds to either guy so anywhere from 7-5 to 10-2 kov is within the range of good scoring. obv if you were wathing it live you could have a different score because you are emotinoally attached, influenced by commentators, on drugs, etc...but actually watching it closely it was an easy win.Last edited by daggum; 04-05-2017, 04:32 PM.
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Originally posted by Thurman View PostHigher accuracy > higher damage?
This is making me rethink all fights of the past.
Mauricio Herrera should be the champ right now.
kovalev landed 99 out of 100 for a 99 percent connect rate.
ward wins this round for cleaner punching and better defense.
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Originally posted by Chollo Vista View PostSMH at people now alluding to some kind of conspiracy because all the judges had it 114-113 for Ward. Ironically so did boxingscene scoring press and every other fan, fighter, and journalist. Either it was 114-113 for ward or the same score for Kovalev. Either or.
That's a lot of people in on the conspricay, right?
I had more rounds for Ward than most. And this is coming from someone who predicted a victory for Kovalev.
But lol@ the conspiracies
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Originally posted by Chollo Vista View PostBecause Ward won the 10th with the clearer head snapping punches
I broke the round for you guys second by second. In return, I had guys talking about punches that didn't even land for Kovalev while disregarding Kovalev's head snapping back.
Unreal
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