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    #11
    Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
    ... because you asked me a question... and now you're still asking me another one... should I simply ignore you?... it isn't difficult, you know well...
    I said you're funny, I hope you enjoy the result of the fight and you replied 'I have experience in sociology to which I replied 'why are you telling me this ?'

    I should have said 'so what ! Who cares ?'

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      #12
      Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
      Why are we using 10 opponents for Ward and only 5 for Kovalev? Im curious.
      I'm guessing it's to make it more fair. If you look at Ward's past 5, you're going to have landslide #'s. Digging back to 10 gives a more balanced figure since some of his best comp was a few fights back.

      Now matter what sampling you take, the numbers will certainly favor Ward. But, I believe that when you're dealing with highly intelligent fighters, it becomes more of a "styles make fights" scenario.

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        #13
        Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
        Why are we using 10 opponents for Ward and only 5 for Kovalev? Im curious.
        Maybe they're the only fights for Kovalev that compubox did?

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          #14
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
          I'm guessing it's to make it more fair. If you look at Ward's past 5, you're going to have landslide #'s. Digging back to 10 gives a more balanced figure since some of his best comp was a few fights back.

          Now matter what sampling you take, the numbers will certainly favor Ward. But, I believe that when you're dealing with highly intelligent fighters, it becomes more of a "styles make fights" scenario.
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
          Maybe they're the only fights for Kovalev that compubox did?
          I think Foxx might have a point here.

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            #15
            Originally posted by MDPopescu View Post
            Quite a comparison he have here!...

            Ward: numbers in 10 fights (over 7 years span)...
            Kovalev: numbers in 5 fights (less than 2 years)...
            still thinks he pulls out the fight ?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
              I'm guessing it's to make it more fair. If you look at Ward's past 5, you're going to have landslide #'s. Digging back to 10 gives a more balanced figure since some of his best comp was a few fights back.

              Now matter what sampling you take, the numbers will certainly favor Ward. But, I believe that when you're dealing with highly intelligent fighters, it becomes more of a "styles make fights" scenario.
              I suspect you're right about the range of fights chosen, though worth noting that a larger range for Kovalev ie. taking his last 10 (back to say, White or Campillo) would have balanced things somewhat.

              One thing I do notice is that while Ward does land slightly more in total, one of the only metrics I find useful in Compubox, ratio of Landed punches to opponents landed punches (which you usually have to work out for yourself) is virtually identical, with just a slight edge to Kovalev. Both guys reduce their opponents connects to very low numbers - with Ward, they still throw but miss a lot, with Kovalev they hit when they throw, but their output is drastically reduced.

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                #17
                Interesting analysis - would be most interested in Ward's LAST 5 fights vs the 5 before as a part of this. The feeling is that he has lost something, don't know what, but watching him vs. Kessler he looked far sharper than recently.

                Maybe he'll have it back tonite....we'll see, not long now,

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