What happened to that really elegant, fluid outboxer style?

[Tom Cruise]

Im talking about the Ali's, the Robinsons, the Harold Johnsons, the Holmes, the Leonards, the Peps of the world.

Outboxing based on a smooth, rhythmic jab and dancing footwork just a few inches out of range

You tend to see more of a herky jerky, low output style from outside boxers these days.

Has to be one of my favourite styles but I cant think of anyone who really does it now.

[Tom Cruise]

Billy Joe kinda does it for about 6 rounds till he gasses. Fury tries but with his height and balance he cant do it to particularly high level

[IronDanHamza]

Harold Johnson example

[DinoCop]

I've also been thinking about this. I think nowadays outboxing style is influenced by Floyd's style whereas they were influenced by Ali's style back in the day, people look after the top dog. Thus outboxers stopped stick n move- dancing and jabbing. They are now like Floyd more stable, use philly shell rather than slipping and pulling back like Ali used to do.
All about the top dog mate.

[daggum]

too risky. its easier to just clinch and prevent your opponent from punching. why take a chance? fighters have to worry about their health

[Tom Cruise]

Harold Johnson example

You put me on to him in the history section if you remember, Dan

Beautiful boxer

[Tom Cruise]

I've also been thinking about this. I think nowadays outboxing style is influenced by Floyd's style whereas they were influenced by Ali's style back in the day, people look after the top dog. Thus outboxers stopped stick n move- dancing and jabbing. They are now like Floyd more stable, use philly shell rather than slipping and pulling back like Ali used to do.
All about the top dog mate.

I can see that. Although Floyd vs Corrales is pretty close to the style im talking about. Definitely as he got older he preferred a low output and more twitchy jerky movement over the smoothness he showed in his youth.

[Tom Cruise]

I blame Roy Jones a little bit for the abandoning of a consistent jab from outboxers. He had the ability stay well out of range using more feints and pawing and didnt really need to pump the jab, but his great athleticism allowed him to close the gap with straight rights or lead left hooks without his opponents countering.

Now you see fighters like Thurman or Haye who are great athletes but seem content to use jerky feints rather than a really nice smooth jab and footwork and both are lacking imo because of it. Not that they arent good fighters. But they could be better

[SplitSecond]

Like Mikey Garcia vs Orlando Salido?

[_Maxi]

too risky. its easier to just clinch and prevent your opponent from punching. why take a chance? fighters have to worry about their health

Took a few posts until someone said the truth. Clinch is not penalized. Therefore it's being abused as a defensive weapon.