And who is Flanagan fighting next? Fana was so deserving. Frank is talking out of both sides of his neck.
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Originally posted by joe strong View PostIf Wlad said yes to the 4 man tourney he would have fought Andy Ruiz & the winner would face Parker/Haye. He would of got the better end of the draw but would still have to go through Parker or Haye again to get the belt. So with no Wlad involved Parker/Ruiz was made & winner fights Haye. No matter where Wlad looks he may have to fight a top HW. Haye is a solid 227-230lbs HW now not the blown up CW he was 5 years ago. Parker is a young lion & so is Joshua. These guys can all punch & end it quickly. Fury is a awkward & a big tactician who uses faints, both stances, head movement, etc but he doesn't have big power. Ortiz looks to have big power & an ability to both box & brawl. Wilder is another guy who can't be forgotten. There is a pretty good landscape of HW threats to a 40 year old Klitschko. Fighting Browne just doesn't have the same luster...
A fight versus Browne tells us where Klitschko is at, if he lost to Joshua without first facing Browne we'd have no idea how to rate Joshua should he have beaten Klitschko since his last two poor displays, you're right he looked to be jaded since Pulev. Let the guy face Browne so we can ascertain how much he has left.
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Originally posted by joe strong View PostHe ain't fighting Joshua next summer. He is #2 in the WBA & WBO. He wants a title. Joshua offered up the IBF & a massive payday. He said no. He was in line to fight Parker for the vacant WBO belt as the #2 contender. He said no so they gave the shot to Ruiz as the #3. Browne is not the #1 or #2 in the WBA. He is the #5 behind Ortiz, Klitschko, Ustinov & Oquendo. Klitschko should be fighting Ortiz for the vacant WBA not Lucas Browne. He is simply trying to get a belt without beating the top guys. He is done & should just hang it up. He's had a great career, made lots of money & is going to the hall of fame but what he is doing here is pretty weak. Everyone sees it but Klitschko fans. He is trying to take the path of least resistance. He hasn't looked good since the pulev fight. He is still in great shape but doesn't look like he can pull the trigger anymore. He is over 40 now & there are some serious young gun HWs who may be able to take him out. Fury doesn't have big power but Wilder, Parker & Joshua do. Ortiz is 37 but a serious threat to him too but yet he feels he should be able to fight Browne for a vacant belt when Ortiz is ranked higher than both he & Browne. It's a clear duck of a tough fight. He wants to retire a champion. He has no intention of fighting Wilder, Joshua, Parker or Ortiz. You are a smart guy you should be able to see this.
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Originally posted by joe strong View PostIf Wlad said yes to the 4 man tourney he would have fought Andy Ruiz & the winner would face Parker/Haye. He would of got the better end of the draw but would still have to go through Parker or Haye again to get the belt. So with no Wlad involved Parker/Ruiz was made & winner fights Haye. No matter where Wlad looks he may have to fight a top HW. Haye is a solid 227-230lbs HW now not the blown up CW he was 5 years ago. Parker is a young lion & so is Joshua. These guys can all punch & end it quickly. Fury is a awkward & a big tactician who uses faints, both stances, head movement, etc but he doesn't have big power. Ortiz looks to have big power & an ability to both box & brawl. Wilder is another guy who can't be forgotten. There is a pretty good landscape of HW threats to a 40 year old Klitschko. Fighting Browne just doesn't have the same luster...
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Frank is a ****ing hater...
Wlad is clearly the best option for a vacant belt vs another top guy..
To think a decade reigning kingpin isnt a top contender just because he finally lost is absurd
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Originally posted by BoxingFan85 View PostI agree this fight doesn't have the same potential but C'mon man.. Stop bigging mediocre guys up because they are in top 10.. Parker will be a one sided fight if not stopped by Wlad, he defeated a well in prime and more fluid Haye and this version suits even better.. AJ stylistically not a problem at all and I am rooting for Wlad to win that fight when it happens.. Fury isn't someone who matches up well with any HW..
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Originally posted by deathofaclown View PostI have no problem with Wlad fighting for the WBA title, after all he did hold them and was about to fight for them in a rematch which hasn't happened.
Anthony Joshua on the other hand does not deserve to step over everybody else in the rankings and fight for it, even though i'd like to see Joshua v Wlad.
However, AJ doesn't deserve a shot at anything else yet. For all the gasbagging people do on here, AJ has fought no one, and bought the belt he has. The only thing missing from the AJ/Martin contract was specifying what round Martin would complete his cash out.
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Ortiz-Klitschko for the WBA championship is more legit than any match involving Ustinov or Browne. A fight against AJ would have been fine too.
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Warren looks ******ed for saying this. You can dog Klitschko about plenty of things, but him not deserving a title shot isn't one of them.
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