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Jones is not naturally larger broOriginally posted by 1g5a22 View PostI cannot access that link & nor do i care. RJJ has a 4 inch reach advantage & id put him at least an inch & half taller than GGG plus he managed to mature into a fully fledged LONG REIGNING LHW by his mid 20's.. None of which Golovkin would be able to do IMO
Golovkins build is that of a MW & he has shown no sign of struggling to make 160. He could make 168 no doubt but that is probably going to come at the late part of his career (A la Calzaghe or Hopkins) Hopkins was 40 & JC was mid 30's. RJJ matured differently as ALL fighters do. Jones as a mature fully fledged adult is naturally bigger than GGG. Sell your **** somewhere else cos i ain't buying..
RJJ fought a former LW & a former LMW yet his prime weight was LHW! So the next time you mention Brook in relation to GGG i suggest you take a minute you hypocrite
do you hate facts
he and GGG are the same height
Jones fought at 156 in the olympics
GGG 165
Jones was just more willing to take risks and move up when fights he wanted didnt materialize
When he couldnt get Benn, Eubank(who admitted fighting him was suicidle) he moved to 168 in the mid 90s
when DM could come to terms when he virtually cleaned out 175, he moved to heavyweight to fight Ruiz
Tyson fight fell through, he came down and fought Tarver at 175
do you hate facts bro
Jones was dwarfed at 175....he looked like he was in a lower weight moving up fight Hall, Tarver, Hill, Harding, Woods, etc because he was not a natural light heavyweight
he was so gifted he could defeat the larger men
if they believe GGG doesnt have the ability to, or it wouldnt make sense, thats all dirty sanchez had to say
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As a teenager! GGG fought as a LWW & LMW once too (amateurs) In fact both GGG & Mike Tyson weighed 14lbs at one point too i suspect! That must make em the same size! LOLOriginally posted by therealpugilist View Post
Damn you're dense.. RJJ was a fully fledged LHW by his mid 20's! I repeat:
Is that clear? RJJ fought as an amateur at LMW yes. GGG fought at LWW! So what? Your point is?! Are you the same size you were as a teenager you goon?! RJJ was essentially a career LHW. Goloovkin a career MW. Embrace it.I cannot access that link & nor do i care. RJJ has a 4 inch reach advantage & id put him at least an inch & half taller than GGG plus he managed to mature into a fully fledged LONG REIGNING LHW by his mid 20's.. None of which Golovkin would be able to do IMO
Golovkins build is that of a MW & he has shown no sign of struggling to make 160. He could make 168 no doubt but that is probably going to come at the late part of his career (A la Calzaghe or Hopkins) Hopkins was 40 & JC was mid 30's. RJJ matured differently as ALL fighters do. Jones as a mature fully fledged adult is naturally bigger than GGG. Sell your **** somewhere else cos i ain't buying..
RJJ fought a former LW & a former LMW yet his prime weight was LHW! So the next time you mention Brook in relation to GGG i suggest you take a minute you hypocrite
All those times you were 'Brooking it up' LOL Pazienza at 168!! Now to curb that you are trying to suggest RJJ is a MW! Man you're pathetic. Funny, but pathetic.Comment
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Jones was small as hell at light heavyweight and clearly outsized when he moved past 168Originally posted by 1g5a22 View Post
bro.....Jones fought the same amount of former champions that GGG has by the time he was 24....24 years old man......thats pathetic...GGG is in his mid 30s and has been a pro over a decade
you have the nerve to bring up opponents? Vinny Paz actually beat some decent fighters at 168
what has brook done at 154? nothing.....160? nothing....and only beat one top ten opponent at 147
Paz won titles at 135, 154 and beat world ranked and fringe contenders Joseph Kiwanuka, Dana Rosenblatt and only lost to the best at 168
unlike your hero Paz and Jones had the balls to move up, even when clearly dwarfed.Comment
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im not race baiting, how the **** does moaning about racism on this site and in boxing somehow put me in the wrong? and also why do you keep snitching on me for aswell, ive got a warning now for it somehow off a mod.Originally posted by don larryx View PostComment
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the only R you need to be concerned with is risksOriginally posted by bigdramashow View Post
the risk taking doesnt match the hype...im sure you can at least admit this.......could be a great fighter, is very good but hasnt been tested like other former greats to reach that status yetComment
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Now you are comparing achievements. That's because you are losing the original argument. I have not once argued against RJJ having more achievements, better resume! This was simply about Golovkin having fought a former WW & you having a breakdown when people pointed out to you your heroes fought weight jumpers too! Secondly Brook & Golovkin have yet to fulfill there entire careers so comparing them accomplishment wise to those names is a tad unfair at this point as those careers are over & can be evaluated fully whereas Brook is yet to make an impact at 154 & Golovkin has yet to unify & move up.Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
Just to be clear because i don't think you understand the point as i think you tend to be a little dense at times.. Everyone was pretty much the same size at one point! I'm sure Mayweather was the same size as Holyfield at one point in there lives! However men mature into different sizes over time & find there weight. Both GGG & RJJ did this at MW & LHW. If Jones was a MW then when he got through at LHW why did he continue to move up (CW & HW) rather than go back to his 'natural MW weight'? LOL
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